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Georgia's only woman on death row is executed
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22 / M / Fraxinus
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Posted 9/30/15
I have very mixed views on the death penalty, and holding someone in prison for eighteen years, to only have them executed, is clearly nonsensical on so many levels, and while I'm not disputing the unfortunate nature of the situation, I'm having trouble figuring out why this is news, when I'm sure there are multiple cases like this...


Oh, but I suppose the fact that she was the only woman in Georgia on death row is a perfect reason for this to be news.
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Posted 9/30/15
Awesome!
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I'm 100% for the death penalty, but they have to come up with a method that's more efficient then what we currently have. It hurts the prisoner for having to be locked up for so long after their crime and the tax payers because we have to pay for their care until the execution. I don't wanna have to pay for someone who we're gonna kill anyways.
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Charles Manson killed two people, officially. Gary Hinman and Donald Shea.
I don't agree with the death penalty, I can understand the desire for retribution but the death penalty makes more people into murderers. So SOME of the familes of the victims will feel like they have closure, many don't and a lot of people have to be there to ensure that the person is killed properly, and there is always the worry that some of the lives they are ending are innocent
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byClear wrote:

I'm 100% for the death penalty, but they have to come up with a method that's more efficient then what we currently have. It hurts the prisoner for having to be locked up for so long after their crime and the tax payers because we have to pay for their care until the execution. I don't wanna have to pay for someone who we're gonna kill anyways.


It's more expensive to kill them than it is to keep them in prison all their lives. The death penalty is actually giving you the opposite of what you're asking for.
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I support capital punishment. Criminals have to be punished in order to stop crimes. The crime rates are so high because liberals always want less punishment for criminals. Support gun rights, send troops to defend our borders, increase punishment for criminals, and the crime rates would drop immediately. All cities run by liberal politicians got super high crime rates because they don't want to punish criminals. We can't let murderers, rapists, and terrorists out of jail, just execute the terrorists in Guantanamo and we can actually shut down the detention facility. Stop wasting tax payer's money to feed those criminals.
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PhantomGundam wrote:


byClear wrote:

I'm 100% for the death penalty, but they have to come up with a method that's more efficient then what we currently have. It hurts the prisoner for having to be locked up for so long after their crime and the tax payers because we have to pay for their care until the execution. I don't wanna have to pay for someone who we're gonna kill anyways.


It's more expensive to kill them than it is to keep them in prison all their lives. The death penalty is actually giving you the opposite of what you're asking for.


It's true that executing criminals is expensive, but it could be changed. The government is just wasting money on mental health counselling for the criminal's family and all that sort of nonsense. It only costs very little to execute a guy. Just cut the expenditure on all the other stuff.
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What I don't understand is why it took so long to enact the punishment. If your convicted and sentenced to death it should be done within a reasonable amount of time, year tops. I just pissed off our taxes went towards keeping her fed and housed for over a decade. Waste of tax money.
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The sad part is, they've held her for 18 years before executing her.

The whole thing should have been over and done with a decade ago.
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MichaelZ007 wrote:

I support capital punishment. Criminals have to be punished in order to stop crimes. The crime rates are so high because liberals always want less punishment for criminals. Support gun rights, send troops to defend our borders, increase punishment for criminals, and the crime rates would drop immediately. All cities run by liberal politicians got super high crime rates because they don't want to punish criminals. We can't let murderers, rapists, and terrorists out of jail, just execute the terrorists in Guantanamo and we can actually shut down the detention facility. Stop wasting tax payer's money to feed those criminals.


This simply isn't true. The fact that there is so little difference in the rate of violent crimes in your states that support and are against capital punishment is a fairly good starting point, to show how pointless it is. I can see you have some fairly strong and obvious political views, but don't state your hypotheses as facts, because they simply aren't.

Besides, if someone is messed up enough to commit serious crimes such as homicide or rape, I don't think the consequences of their actions are taking a priority in their heads. I think the vast majority of people who commit such crimes are hoping to get away with it, don't you? I don't think anyone, liberal or otherwise, thinks that criminals shouldn't be punished. But in addition to punishments their should be programs to reform the criminal to help prevent repeat offenders.

You can say keeping these criminals alive and fed is a waste of tax payers' money, but I'd say just locking them up for a while and releasing them, without them having learned a thing is an even bigger waste. And I'd prefer a rehabilitation method to a "kill everyone" method. It'd prevent falsely accused prisoners of being executed for a crime they hadn't committed, too.

If there was solid, conclusive evidence that capital punishment was an effective deterrent, I don't know if I'd wholeheartedly support it, but I wouldn't be as averse to it, but only for criminals where their crime is extraordinary great, or rehabilitating them fails.
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PhantomGundam wrote:


byClear wrote:

I'm 100% for the death penalty, but they have to come up with a method that's more efficient then what we currently have. It hurts the prisoner for having to be locked up for so long after their crime and the tax payers because we have to pay for their care until the execution. I don't wanna have to pay for someone who we're gonna kill anyways.


It's more expensive to kill them than it is to keep them in prison all their lives. The death penalty is actually giving you the opposite of what you're asking for.


A one time payment to erase their existence is worth it.
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some of you go on and on about putting people to death for murder. that is punishment anyone gets for being evil enough to do it. I get pissed when they just life. Tell me: The woman who kills her children or the man who beats his wife to death, the teen who shots homeless guys for fun, the conveince store robbers who shoot all witness, home invaders, serial killers and that guy from ISIS who cuts off heads , do all these people deserve your forgiveness ? You do the crime you pay in time. and I have to say the death row guys get it easy. they go to sleep. I personnally wish it was as painful as possible to give them a taste of what their victums felt
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The Green River killer gave up the locations of his buried victims in exchange for the state commuting the death penalty to life in prison ...if the death penalty was not an option, what motive would he have for such a confession?? One reason gangs use underage kids to commit murder is that they know they are more likely to be given a lighter sentence.

I fully support forgiving these murderers ..forgive - then execute.
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What I find ironic about this is that it happened a week after Pope Francis visited here and denounced the death penalty. One of his people even wrote to them about this specific case and asked them not to do it. I know the Pope has no say in U.S. laws, but it looks like a big slap in the face to just ignore him over such an important issue, even if the execution date was already set.


Although I'm against the death penalty, I definitely don't support enacting legislation based on the pope's opinions. I mean, what are you suggesting should have been done? "Oh, the pope's against the death penalty -- better call a special session of the state legislature to change our laws!" I wouldn't really call it a "slap in the face" to carry out our laws as usual.

For one, an anti-death-penalty pope is nothing new, so it isn't any more of an offense to the papal office now than it was decades ago. But more importantly, I'm not sure why his opinion should carry more weight than anyone else's. I'd say get rid of the death penalty because vengeance is a terrible motive for killing people, not because the pope is against it.

As for the death penalty, I get the argument that it acts as a deterrent. That might work for me if it were true, but I don't imagine it actually deters many people, so I'm still against it. I'm open to evidence on that point though. Rehabilitation is obviously moot, since you can't be a better person if you're dead. I don't see the point of vengeance, so that's also not a motive for me. Someone might make the argument from justice, but frankly, I have no motive for justice in itself. If justice makes life worse, I see no reason to do what's just. People in prison can still contribute to culture and meaning, and add something to our knowledge of the world. Whether it's "just" or not is basically not something I care about. I'm more concerned with whether I'd prefer to live in a world where state-endorsed-vengeance is a thing. To put it simply, I'd rather live a good life (whatever that means) than a just one (whatever that means).
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One step closer to EQUALITY!!!

*wait, what do you mean, that wasn't funny!???
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