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Sad that some kid went on a spree and from what I have heard, shot Christians in the head. Is it true or another 4chan prank about that?


Was it a black church? If so it was probably the homie Dylan Roof, that is a legitimate church shooting, I think he killed 9 people there, he gave no fucks about it either.


I be interested to hear what this is about.

http://news.yahoo.com/oregon-shooting-suspect-asked-victims-religion-local-newspaper-211138872.html
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http://news.yahoo.com/shooting-umpqua-community-college-oregon-182211198.html

I hate how Obama and the media turned it into mostly a story about gun control.

Also wtf he was 20!? The emo teen age range is increasing. ..
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Tirnoth wrote:

Just watched the President's speech regarding the tragedy.

I agree completely that our thoughts and prayers are not enough.

Is America decsensitized to gun control?


According to surveys, somewhere between 70 and 90 percent of Americans are in favor of some form of gun control. However, our politicians are too afraid of organizations like the NRA to do anything about it.
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Roadmonster wrote:


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Yee haww best country in the world!


Guns keep us safe from the king of England!


I'm sorry to say this as a Swede. But your 2nd Amendment was never intended to protect you from foreign oppressors, as Thomas Jefferson said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.".

Your 2nd Amendment is your de facto right to rebel aginst your own government.


Incorrect it was designed so we would have militias rather then a standing army. Since Jefferson as well as the others that actually wrote the Constitution didn't want them. The military under Jefferson was about 20 thousand men mostly made up of coast Guard and Navy not army. The means by which we in the states change our government is through elections which is how it is designed to work. And if you look at our history the last two times a group of citizens rebelled against the government didn't work to well. The whiskey rebellion and the south succeeding from the north guns really didn't help them in either case against the stronger central government. In the first case Washington called up the militia in the second the same was done as well with the same results.

Now our militia system has been replaced with the National Guard and Air National Guard since to be an official militia you have to fall under the guidance of the state since that is how the laws are written that regulated them. If you want to change the government and the country win elections don't take up arms it ends badly if you do. No really look at the history of it and if you think an AR15 beats an predator drone you are sadly mistaken.

Original Virginia Constitution which was also written by Jefferson and this is the text he wanted to use for the US Constitution.

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.



So the question is how many more dead before folks start reading the first part that is in the actually Constitution which says well regulated.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


Oh and the courts hold the vie that you can regulate firearms this did come down in the last case so we can require background checks and the like.
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actually we should ban all guns like in many Asian countries a lot of the Asian countries I been to police don't even carry guns and only until recently started carrying tazers and we should change the constitution because we no longer live in a time where we have to hunt to get our food or worry about the British
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Oh man not again
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I as an American am finding it curious as to how people still to this day still use the second amendment as some sort of shield to protect their "right to bare arms". Like all the amendments there are clauses and limitations the must mold to the modern day. Take the first amendment the freedom of speech, religion, and press. Is one allowed to yell "fire" or "bomb" in a crowded space like a movie theater. Answer, no. You'll be arrested on the spot, and if you try and say "my first amendment right" well the court will turn around and say the rights of the many are greater than the rights of the few. And that is basic democracy. You can't have 100% agreement on everything but the majority makes the rule of the land. And if the majority says that the current status of lenient gun control is not working which it is not. Then it must change. If you were to look at the concentration of where the shootings are you will notice a greater portion of them are in lenient gun law states. And that means the laws don't work. A person who can get 20 rifles and no one bothers to ask the question "gee I wonder why he bought so many rifles?" It's a problem.
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Those people should be held accountable for him committing this... freaking 4chan, bunch of assholes on there. It's sad how in Oregon you can legally conceal carry on campus, yet no one stopped him...

We need to seriously reform mental health in this country, ever since the 1980s it's gotten worse.
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you cant stop this kind of stuff. I almost found myself saying there should be more gun control. all you can do is learn about why this happened and try to prevent it next time


Is this how Liberals are? Gun control before mourning? You things make no sense...
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Junkmeister wrote:

I as an American am finding it curious as to how people still to this day still use the second amendment as some sort of shield to protect their "right to bare arms". Like all the amendments there are clauses and limitations the must mold to the modern day. Take the first amendment the freedom of speech, religion, and press. Is one allowed to yell "fire" or "bomb" in a crowded space like a movie theater. Answer, no. You'll be arrested on the spot, and if you try and say "my first amendment right" well the court will turn around and say the rights of the many are greater than the rights of the few. And that is basic democracy. You can't have 100% agreement on everything but the majority makes the rule of the land. And if the majority says that the current status of lenient gun control is not working which it is not. Then it must change. If you were to look at the concentration of where the shootings are you will notice a greater portion of them are in lenient gun law states. And that means the laws don't work. A person who can get 20 rifles and no one bothers to ask the question "gee I wonder why he bought so many rifles?" It's a problem.


Am I a criminal for owning lots of firearms? I'd just like to hear your amazing input.

The 2nd amendment was made not for sport shooting or for hunting... it was made to defend us against tyrannical governments, and to be used in self-defense. If he had a brown bess musket he could have done the same thing. A trained British infantryman could shoot and reload every 7 seconds.
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gsm642 wrote:

actually we should ban all guns like in many Asian countries a lot of the Asian countries I been to police don't even carry guns and only until recently started carrying tazers and we should change the constitution because we no longer live in a time where we have to hunt to get our food or worry about the British


great plan

lemme know how you're gonna get rid of over 350 million guns
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I just read about this a few hours ago.

That's pretty fucked up but I'm not surprised.
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Those people should be held accountable for him committing this... freaking 4chan, bunch of assholes on there. It's sad how in Oregon you can legally conceal carry on campus, yet no one stopped him...

We need to seriously reform mental health in this country, ever since the 1980s it's gotten worse.


Of course this happened in a gun free zone. If the school wants to ban students from having guns fine but then they better be held responsible for providing safety. If the people calling for more gun control even paid attention all these shootings are occurring in gun free zones. Sadly it is going to be used to push more gun control instead of mental health.


Umpqua Community College is a posted Gun Free Zone but allows concealed carry under Oregon law. The college security page states the following:

“Possession, use, or threatened use of firearms (including but not limited to BB guns, air guns, water pistols, and paint guns) ammunition, explosives, dangerous chemicals, or any other objects as weapons on college property, except as expressly authorized by law or college regulations, is prohibited.

Possession of knives with a blade longer than 4” is prohibited.

Brandishing weapons is prohibited.

Misuse of personal defensive weapons – e.g., pepper spray, etc. is prohibited. The owner is responsible and accountable for any misuse of these devices.”


http://www.ammoland.com/2015/10/shooting-at-gun-free-umpqua-community-college-oregon/#axzz3nMf6qgjj
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this is why I stay away from 4chan it kills brain cells
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