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Well that's certainly interesting. Drain cleaner in the eyes. I wonder if there could have been a faster method. Still she got what she wanted which is good. Would probably have been better to get her vision surgically turned off, but good luck finding any hospital or surgeon willing that walking hell of a lawsuit onto their table.




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Umm, no. Self harming yourself of any kind should not be allowed.



Think of it this way, she's of the same mind frame as transgendered folks. Except she wanted to be blind. She went out and got it done without stabbing herself in the eyes with pliers. I say good for her.

Stuff like this should fall under the same idea as tattoos and piercings. Your body, your choice.
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someone has been watching too much daredevil
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I have Aniridia and being even legally blind isn't any fun. I'll never be able to own a vehicle, and it has affected my career choices.

Any how. This brings self-diagnosis to a completely new level. Eat your heart out tumblr. :|
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ZenZaku wrote:

Well that's certainly interesting. Drain cleaner in the eyes. I wonder if there could have been a faster method. Still she got what she wanted which is good. Would probably have been better to get her vision surgically turned off, but good luck finding any hospital or surgeon willing that walking hell of a lawsuit onto their table.




Carnagepool wrote:

Umm, no. Self harming yourself of any kind should not be allowed.



Think of it this way, she's of the same mind frame as transgendered folks. Except she wanted to be blind. She went out and got it done without stabbing herself in the eyes with pliers. I say good for her.

Stuff like this should fall under the same idea as tattoos and piercings. Your body, your choice.


What a dangerous and irresponsible mindset. You realize this woman has disabled herself right? This is not a tattoo, piercing or even a sex change. She has impaired her life indefinitely and now has to spend it in care or in solitude with extreme difficulty. How will she work to feed herself? She won't even be able to do her basic day to day activities without assistance. She's now welfare-dependent, care-dependent and an unnecessary noncontributing member of society. This is self-harm, not identity crisis. Blindness is not an identity or an accessory, it is an impairment. She's clearly unstable and needed help.
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Such a waste of resources.
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CyanSwan wrote:


ZenZaku wrote:

Well that's certainly interesting. Drain cleaner in the eyes. I wonder if there could have been a faster method. Still she got what she wanted which is good. Would probably have been better to get her vision surgically turned off, but good luck finding any hospital or surgeon willing that walking hell of a lawsuit onto their table.




Carnagepool wrote:

Umm, no. Self harming yourself of any kind should not be allowed.



Think of it this way, she's of the same mind frame as transgendered folks. Except she wanted to be blind. She went out and got it done without stabbing herself in the eyes with pliers. I say good for her.

Stuff like this should fall under the same idea as tattoos and piercings. Your body, your choice.


What a dangerous and irresponsible mindset. You realize this woman has disabled herself right? This is not a tattoo, piercing or even a sex change. She has impaired her life indefinitely and now has to spend it in care or in solitude with extreme difficulty. How will she work to feed herself? She won't even be able to do her basic day to day activities without assistance. She's now welfare-dependent, care-dependent and an unnecessary noncontributing member of society. This is self-harm, not identity crisis. Blindness is not an identity or an accessory, it is an impairment. She's clearly unstable and needed help.


Exactly. Like I said some point are getting into this disturbing trend where disabilities are part of ones identity and should be respected rather than fixed. Again treating people as lesser for disabilities is bad but that doesn't make having them normal or okay. It's still a disability that should be fixed if possible.

Because a disability shouldn't define who you are thus it should not be considered part of who you truly are as a person. Just because you have a disability doesn't mean you should feel ashamed of yourself because it's not exactly something that can be helped in most cases. But again just because it's nothing to be ashamed of doesn't mean you should want to have it.


So the idea you can "Identify" yourself as blind is complete nonsense. Because again blindness doesn't define who you are it's just a body condition that affects your life style. But who you are as a person isn't in the blindness it's who you are as a person that decides how you live with that blindness.
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CyanSwan wrote:


ZenZaku wrote:

Well that's certainly interesting. Drain cleaner in the eyes. I wonder if there could have been a faster method. Still she got what she wanted which is good. Would probably have been better to get her vision surgically turned off, but good luck finding any hospital or surgeon willing that walking hell of a lawsuit onto their table.




Carnagepool wrote:

Umm, no. Self harming yourself of any kind should not be allowed.



Think of it this way, she's of the same mind frame as transgendered folks. Except she wanted to be blind. She went out and got it done without stabbing herself in the eyes with pliers. I say good for her.

Stuff like this should fall under the same idea as tattoos and piercings. Your body, your choice.


What a dangerous and irresponsible mindset. You realize this woman has disabled herself right? This is not a tattoo, piercing or even a sex change. She has impaired her life indefinitely and now has to spend it in care or in solitude with extreme difficulty. How will she work to feed herself? She won't even be able to do her basic day to day activities without assistance. She's now welfare-dependent, care-dependent and an unnecessary noncontributing member of society. This is self-harm, not identity crisis. Blindness is not an identity or an accessory, it is an impairment. She's clearly unstable and needed help.


I don't deny what you're saying. However what's done is done. She felt strongly enough to seek out and have this done to herself. Maybe she could have been counseled into believing that she was insane for thinking the way she did. But truly I don't see the issue in her having this done. You talk about the impact on society from this. But other than the potential need for some care as she adjusts and now being on welfare, the only real issue is the welfare here if you feel that way.
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ZenZaku wrote:

I don't deny what you're saying. However what's done is done. She felt strongly enough to seek out and have this done to herself. Maybe she could have been counseled into believing that she was insane for thinking the way she did. But truly I don't see the issue in her having this done. You talk about the impact on society from this. But other than the potential need for some care as she adjusts and now being on welfare, the only real issue is the welfare here if you feel that way.


The impact on society is people having a growing complacency with matters like this.

Example above.



It's dangerous. People are becoming accepting of unhealthy trends, even glorifying it.
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wow... that is something...
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What happened to the doctor's vow to do no harm? Sure, maybe for the woman it wasn't harm but if she has a disorder then it should be a different case.
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I just realized this woman is the Rachel Dolezal of blind people.


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Your prerogative. More importantly, this woman clearly has a mental disorder. She inflicted permanent self-harm to herself to spend the rest of her life disabled. She's troubled and needed assistance.


Yes my opinion exactly. I can't understand how a psychologist could agree to do this, he must have got his license from a box of cracker jacks. This has to violate some kind of professional ethics, unless shrinks just don't have the same code of ethics as M.Ds.

Shouldn't her psychologist have tried to find out what was motivating her to want to be blind? There must be something deep-seated there, whether a desire for attention, extreme self-loathing, or wanting special treatment.


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I call this disturbing because we have situations like this where people ignore their own problems or even make them worse because instead of trying to deal with them or get better in some way they either do nothing or they make it worse because it's "who they are".



Frankly I agree. I didn't use to believe in the slippery slope argument...but now I do. The contemporary climate of identity politics has gotten way out of hand. If we start accepting this kind of self-identifying b.s. then every zoophilliac, necrophiliac, objectum sexuality person, and other unmentionable fetishists and deviants out there are gonna start demanding protected status to do whatever it is they do. People who want to have sex with animals with just say they self-identify as a fox, or something, and it gets increasingly difficult to morally justify stopping them if we let similar behaviors slide.


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I don't deny what you're saying. However what's done is done. She felt strongly enough to seek out and have this done to herself. Maybe she could have been counseled into believing that she was insane for thinking the way she did. But truly I don't see the issue in her having this done. You talk about the impact on society from this. But other than the potential need for some care as she adjusts and now being on welfare, the only real issue is the welfare here if you feel that way.


I think some things just have to be accepted as impairments and undesirable or else they're not going to be seen as a problem to be fixed. I'm reminded of the radical deafness advocates who are vehemently opposed to scientific research and treatment of being deaf, because if a cure for deafness is developed then the entire "deaf culture" of sign language, etc, will be obsolete, and they don't like to think that they're bodies are not functioning as intended. If they succeeded at making scientific research on a deafness cure controversial, or "an act of oppression," i hate to think there would never be a cure for deafness or blindness because impairment ceased to be seen as a problem that should be medically treated.
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I've seen instances like this before - where people want to be paralyzed, blinded, or an amputee because of some mental issue. It's down to a mental issue and they need counseling, not to have their bodies mutilated. I get, it's their body - but really - it's self mutilation, it's self harm. If someone were cutting themselves, we'd want them to seek counseling to figure out what was wrong. Why is it different if they want to cut or harm their eyes? I see none.

But, that's just my 2¢
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While I don't believe there is any research on transableism, research on surgery for body dysmorphic disorder (which is a decently similar phenomena) has pretty clearly shown that it doesn't help, and it often actual makes things worse. As I've said in regards to every "trans" disorder, try to address the issue mentally first. Surgery should be a last resort, only to be taken alongside the counseling of a mental health professional.
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ZenZaku wrote:

I don't deny what you're saying. However what's done is done. She felt strongly enough to seek out and have this done to herself. Maybe she could have been counseled into believing that she was insane for thinking the way she did. But truly I don't see the issue in her having this done. You talk about the impact on society from this. But other than the potential need for some care as she adjusts and now being on welfare, the only real issue is the welfare here if you feel that way.


The impact on society is people having a growing complacency with matters like this.

Example above.



It's dangerous. People are becoming accepting of unhealthy trends, even glorifying it.


Complacent to people being idiots, yes I'd say I am. She achieved her goal and clearly didn't see the faultiness of her thinking and was able to convince the psychiatrist to disable her. I'm mildly curious as to what, if any, repercussions are in store for Psychiatrist that did this to her.

A question to you is how do we make people like this see that they should seek serious therapy when they feel that they are in the right?
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Why doesn't she donate her eyes to someone who really needs them, if she really believes she 100% must be blind?

Make the best out of a worst-case scenario?
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