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Woman Self-Identifies as Blind, Blinds Self
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ZenZaku wrote:


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ZenZaku wrote:

Well that's certainly interesting. Drain cleaner in the eyes. I wonder if there could have been a faster method. Still she got what she wanted which is good. Would probably have been better to get her vision surgically turned off, but good luck finding any hospital or surgeon willing that walking hell of a lawsuit onto their table.




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Umm, no. Self harming yourself of any kind should not be allowed.



Think of it this way, she's of the same mind frame as transgendered folks. Except she wanted to be blind. She went out and got it done without stabbing herself in the eyes with pliers. I say good for her.

Stuff like this should fall under the same idea as tattoos and piercings. Your body, your choice.


What a dangerous and irresponsible mindset. You realize this woman has disabled herself right? This is not a tattoo, piercing or even a sex change. She has impaired her life indefinitely and now has to spend it in care or in solitude with extreme difficulty. How will she work to feed herself? She won't even be able to do her basic day to day activities without assistance. She's now welfare-dependent, care-dependent and an unnecessary noncontributing member of society. This is self-harm, not identity crisis. Blindness is not an identity or an accessory, it is an impairment. She's clearly unstable and needed help.


I don't deny what you're saying. However what's done is done. She felt strongly enough to seek out and have this done to herself. Maybe she could have been counseled into believing that she was insane for thinking the way she did. But truly I don't see the issue in her having this done. You talk about the impact on society from this. But other than the potential need for some care as she adjusts and now being on welfare, the only real issue is the welfare here if you feel that way.


There is no "only real issue" here. You distinctly stated this decision was hers to make in right as it was "her body", completely neglecting the fact that her welfare dependency now impacts others. She disabled herself. A disability isn't an identity and you're out of order for suggest it is. There are people who are born blind, never having the chance of a fulfilling life, and here you are applauding this woman for mutilating herself to assume their "role" by comparing it to a tattoo. To spend her life in care and on welfare she didn't need. How you see this as an act of self-expression is beyond me. She's a troubled woman and I have nothing but pity for her.
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I mean she happy...I guess I mean its her choice and her life as long as she didnt blind anyone else Im ok with it I guess...
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i was going to say something, but...... i wouldn't touch this threads topic with a
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Posted 10/1/15

Carnagepool wrote:


haikinka wrote:

Eh, her body, if that's what makes her happy she should be allowed to do it.
Hopefully she doesn't regret it.


Umm, no. Self harming yourself of any kind should not be allowed.


Wrong. Your body, your decision. What should not be allowed is the idea that others can tell you what to do with YOUR body.
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ZenZaku wrote:

Complacent to people being idiots, yes I'd say I am. She achieved her goal and clearly didn't see the faultiness of her thinking and was able to convince the psychiatrist to disable her. I'm mildly curious as to what, if any, repercussions are in store for Psychiatrist that did this to her.

A question to you is how do we make people like this see that they should seek serious therapy when they feel that they are in the right?




By treating them as people that need serious help and not confirming their impaired thinking with political statements for social justice would be a great start:


saksiss wrote:

Wrong. Your body, your decision. What should not be allowed is the idea that others can tell you what to do with YOUR body.


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saksiss wrote:


Carnagepool wrote:


haikinka wrote:

Eh, her body, if that's what makes her happy she should be allowed to do it.
Hopefully she doesn't regret it.


Umm, no. Self harming yourself of any kind should not be allowed.


Wrong. Your body, your decision. What should not be allowed is the idea that others can tell you what to do with YOUR body.


Yeah, your right. Your perfectly sane if you wish to become blind.
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A new twist on the "self diagnosis" craze. Except it's an actual medical condition that can be induced if one so desires, unlike a mental disorder which is much harder to fake. Meanwhile most blind people would kill a man to regain or have the sense that they've been basically robbed of.

Gross. Lady needs proper help. What she did was pretty sickening but it's probably rooted in an actual mental issue too. Comparative to lesser things like girls with some mental desire to get pregnant or something. It's still extremely sad and infuriating at the same time for some reason, even if it is based in the fact that she has a mental issue.
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Posted 10/1/15

Carnagepool wrote:


saksiss wrote:


Carnagepool wrote:


haikinka wrote:

Eh, her body, if that's what makes her happy she should be allowed to do it.
Hopefully she doesn't regret it.


Umm, no. Self harming yourself of any kind should not be allowed.


Wrong. Your body, your decision. What should not be allowed is the idea that others can tell you what to do with YOUR body.


Yeah, your right. Your perfectly sane if you wish to become blind.


Whether they're sane or not is irrelevant. Nobody has the right to tell a person they cannot harm themselves. If they want to blind themselves, they have every right to do so.
Posted 10/1/15

haikinka wrote:


CyanSwan wrote:


Your prerogative.


Not wrong there


Doctor haikinka, please treat me
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saksiss wrote:

Whether they're sane or not is irrelevant. Nobody has the right to tell a person they cannot harm themselves. If they want to blind themselves, they have every right to do so.




Seek help.
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Posted 10/1/15

saksiss wrote:


Carnagepool wrote:


saksiss wrote:


Carnagepool wrote:


haikinka wrote:

Eh, her body, if that's what makes her happy she should be allowed to do it.
Hopefully she doesn't regret it.


Umm, no. Self harming yourself of any kind should not be allowed.


Wrong. Your body, your decision. What should not be allowed is the idea that others can tell you what to do with YOUR body.


Yeah, your right. Your perfectly sane if you wish to become blind.


Whether they're sane or not is irrelevant. Nobody has the right to tell a person they cannot harm themselves. If they want to blind themselves, they have every right to do so.

*facepalm* You obviously don't understand mental illness.
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saksiss wrote:

Whether they're sane or not is irrelevant. Nobody has the right to tell a person they cannot harm themselves. If they want to blind themselves, they have every right to do so.


Ethically that is extremely questionable, but it is unquestionable that such methods should not be encouraged as a line of "treatment". Whether or not you think that it should be legal does not change the idea that it should be heavily discouraged and be pushed against by every mental health professional on the planet. Such measures are clearly not healthy and they are clearly not rational so acting like they are treatment is ridiculous.

PS: I'm not accusing you of this, just using your post as a jumping off point
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Seriously?????? Loosing my eyesight is my biggest fear. So the idea of someone purposely blinding them self just boggles my mind.
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StrayedRabbit wrote:

I have Aniridia and being even legally blind isn't any fun. I'll never be able to own a vehicle, and it has affected my career choices.


I'm in a similar position. Different disease, same result.

I lost my license 15 years ago. I dread the day I lose my remaining eyesight.
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Person who wants to become blind becomes blind. So it all worked out in the end.
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