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I've noticed a trend on anime review websites, especially on Crunchyroll. People will review an anime (almost always 5-stars), and they'll gush about it... but it'll only be the first episode or two that they've watched! It won't be clear from the review itself that the reviewer has barely watched the show before reviewing it, but you can tell from the date that the review was published; for example, most of the reviews for School-Live (Gakkou Gurashi) right now came out in early July, around the time the show first started.

I think this is a very bad trend. The problem on Crunchyroll with these incomplete reviews is that, because they're the first ones published, they're also the first ones people see and the ones that get marked with thumbs-ups, sending them to the "most helpful" list. This gives potential viewers a flawed image of what the anime is really like, and therefore, bad recommendations, because there is no sort of marker saying how far the viewer has watched unless you pay attention to the release date of the anime in question compared to the review, or if the reviewer notes it themselves.

I don't think anyone can disagree that reviewing a show based on the first episode or two is a bad idea. So when is it appropriate to review a show? Should someone finish an entire series before giving it a review? That's my opinion, though there are certainly cases when someone doesn't need to finish a series. A series that was bad enough that I couldn't make it past episode 6 or 7 I would still give a poor review to.

But sometimes shows take a long time to build up into greatness, and sometimes a good show can fall apart. In the case of the former, Madoka Magica was not simulcast on Crunchyroll because it came before simulcasts were common; if people reviewed that show simply based on the first episode or two, they probably would not have lavished as much praise on it as the reviews do now. In the case of the latter, I refused to review School-Live (Gakkou Gurashi) before the final episode aired last week; I loved the show throughout its run, but I was concerned that the ending would be disappointing, so I held off just in case. I turned out to be wrong, and the show was great the whole way through, but I know there have been many series that have had disappointing, or even simply bad, endings, despite their great starts. Angel Beats, in my opinion, was one of those series, and if I were to review it only based on episode 5 or 6, I would have given it 4, maybe even 5 stars, while I gave it 2 stars when judged as a whole.

So I don't think that people should review a show while it's still airing, or until they have finished. If they have to review it, they should specify in the review that they haven't finished, and should update it when they do. But I don't have the only opinion. How does everyone else feel about this?
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I don't read (or watch) reviews, I like to form my own opinion on things. So I don't care.

Most of the time the reviews on the first episode tend to be a 1st Reaction or Insta-Drops. Some get updated, some don't.

If it bothers you, just go give all of those reviews a -1 then.
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Another thing to consider is if the anime is adapting a manga, light novel , or game. These type of readers have a good understanding of where the story based on knowledge of the adapted medium, if they don’t do a anime original ending/plots.
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Oh wow, I recognize that avatar.

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It's extremely annoying especially on sites like MAL. I've observed far too many instances where people slam a show based solely on the opening episode and never re-edit it upon completion. If you have only seen the first episode of a show you definitely do not have the necessary information or perspective required to write a review worth reading.
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Charlieandthetrollingfactory wrote:

It's extremely annoying especially on sites like MAL. I've observed far too many instances where people slam a show based solely on the opening episode and never re-edit it upon completion. If you have only seen the first episode of a show you definitely do not have the necessary information or perspective required to write a review worth reading.


I disagree with you. I could not finish episode 1 of Attack on Titan since it hit way to many of my no buttons. I will speak my opinion, but I do acknowledge that is what it is . . . an opinion. My opinion is not superiour to anybody else's opinion. It's just different. But to ssay a worthwhile review can not be written based on one episode is, at best, silly. Like every other type of review the reader will have to use his or her own judgement to evaluate the review.
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I finish the anime before I write the review.

I thought this was common sense.
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People who do this kind of thing should make it clear from the start that they haven't watched the whole thing. That way readers know to take the review with more than a few grains of salt.
After all, you can't judge something properly before getting to know it. That would nearly be the literal definition of prejudice
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I completely agree with you. It's even worse on MAL where people will write a review on episode 3 and then never bother to update it. In these sites, there should restrictions on when you can post a review. For a one or two cour show, you shouldn't be able to write a review until it's over or close to being over. For a long runner, after it hits 24 episodes, then you can write a review.

But unfortunately, I don't think this would help because some people may just post their episode 1 review when the required time is up.

I think at least on MAL, there should be filters for: "Has seen all episodes" Or has seen more than "X number of episodes" so then people can have more options to view the reviews they want.

Or maybe they could divide it up into "Impressions" and "Reviews". This way you could at least divide it up and have the people that fully watched it separated from people that have only watched a few episodes.


Gafennec wrote:
But to ssay a worthwhile review can not be written based on one episode is, at best, silly.


You cannot give an accurate review after episode 1. You have not seen the whole thing, therefore, your review is not very credible because it is not a complete review. It's like me reviewing a movie after seeing the first 15 mins, how can I give an accurate, credible review if I don't see the whole thing. I don't care if you gave the the thing a 2/10 at the end, if you can explain why you did after watching the whole thing then power to ya.

It's fine to drop something during the first episode, but to say your episode 1 review is just as credible as someone who has watched the whole thing is just simply not true.
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LoomyTheBrew wrote:



I completely agree with you. It's even worse on MAL where people will write a review on episode 3 and then never bother to update it. In these sites, there should restrictions on when you can post a review. For a one or two cour show, you shouldn't be able to write a review until it's over or close to being over. For a long runner, after it hits 24 episodes, then you can write a review.

But unfortunately, I don't think this would help because some people may just post their episode 1 review when the required time is up.

I think at least on MAL, there should be filters for: "Has seen all episodes" Or has seen more than "X number of episodes" so then people can have more options to view the reviews they want.

Or maybe they could divide it up into "Impressions" and "Reviews". This way you could at least divide it up and have the people that fully watched it separated from people that have only watched a few episodes.


Gafennec wrote:
But to ssay a worthwhile review can not be written based on one episode is, at best, silly.


You cannot give an accurate review after episode 1. You have not seen the whole thing, therefore, your review is not very credible because it is not a complete review. It's like me reviewing a movie after seeing the first 15 mins, how can I give an accurate, credible review if I don't see the whole thing. I don't care if you gave the the thing a 2/10 at the end, if you can explain why you did after watching the whole thing then power to ya.

It's fine to drop something during the first episode, but to say your episode 1 review is just as credible as someone who has watched the whole thing is just simply not true.


I will write something later.
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Posted 10/3/15

AnimeKami wrote:

I will write something later.


Cool.
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Posted 10/3/15

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Oh wow, I recognize that avatar.

Lewd.


Yeah, a little lewd... It's friggin' beautiful art either way.



LoomyTheBrew wrote:



I completely agree with you. It's even worse on MAL where people will write a review on episode 3 and then never bother to update it. In these sites, there should restrictions on when you can post a review. For a one or two cour show, you shouldn't be able to write a review until it's over or close to being over. For a long runner, after it hits 24 episodes, then you can write a review.

But unfortunately, I don't think this would help because some people may just post their episode 1 review when the required time is up.

I think at least on MAL, there should be filters for: "Has seen all episodes" Or has seen more than "X number of episodes" so then people can have more options to view the reviews they want.

Or maybe they could divide it up into "Impressions" and "Reviews". This way you could at least divide it up and have the people that fully watched it separated from people that have only watched a few episodes.

Oh, if MAL, Crunchyroll, etc. had any sort of filtering system, I'd be all over it. If Crunchyroll (after letting us indicate how many episodes we've seen like MAL) did some tinkering to the "most helpful" system to prioritize those that had actually finished over those that haven't, it would be very beneficial. I think it would help a lot in letting potential watchers of a show figure out what the show has to offer, and if the show is for them after all. Watching OPs/EDs and reading descriptions sometimes isn't enough to get the gist of it, and reviews will help. Since most anime reviewers inflate their scores and have constant 5-star ratings (I am guilty of this at times myself), the actual score doesn't matter as much as what they have to say.
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I think MAL does it right as it says explicitly how many episodes you watched when your review was made not how many you have seen in total. I would like to see an option in the Crunchyroll reviews were there is a small box where you input how many episodes you have seen as this could remove most of the confusion. I know its not fail proof but neither is MAL and seeing in the top right corner of someones review that they have seen 2/13 you know its going to be a far different review than one that has 6/13.
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I think it'd be a neat feature, though probably not that useful, to be able to do multiple reviews of a series as you watch it. You could have your "First Impression", your opinion after Episode 3, then your opinion after you finish the series, and then have them all be linked so someone can read them all in a row and see how your opinion of the show changed over time.
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Posted 10/4/15 , edited 10/4/15

Thedude3445 wrote:

I think it'd be a neat feature, though probably not that useful, to be able to do multiple reviews of a series as you watch it. You could have your "First Impression", your opinion after Episode 3, then your opinion after you finish the series, and then have them all be linked so someone can read them all in a row and see how your opinion of the show changed over time.


I think it would be cool if you review a show and all of your reviews are together in one place. This would be more ideal as if you have a good solid review you are likely to be placed at the top so when your second review comes in it is more likely to be seen. I can see people making a poor first review and a better second review but this system will encourage people to make more consistent reviews as well. There should be a little drop down box so it doesn't get to crowed maybe making use of the spoiler which is already implemented into the site. I would also like to see a filter when searching for reviews so I could look for only first impression or full review but just having them all in one place would be a great start but I feel a filter would really be able to flesh this out more.

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