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Posted 10/5/15
Let's say that France and Spain still aided the Colonies during the war, but the British were more fervent about their North American possessions than they were in 1781 or managed to win the war quicker at the very beginning.

What would be the fate of the world from thereon without the United States? Would Britain have reformed their government to a more democratic one? Would civil right have been sped up for African Americans? Would World War I be fought over North America as well as Africa? Would the Allies have won in World War II, if it even happened? Would there have been a strong enough opposition against communism in the west?

Honestly, I'm not even entirely sure, but any thoughts?
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America would have devolved from colony to country,(Canada, Australia, New Zealand) with a trust in civil law(guns only for hunting) and maybe a dozen political parties. The world might be a more peaceful place or a Maoist hell, who knows.
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Then, I guess we'd be British?
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The British would have executed everyone involved. Raised our taxes to pay for their war against us. They would have finished forming their Native American Buffer State. Britain would have become ungodly powerful and ruled the Earth with our resources.

Democracy would not have gotten revived and our loss would prove democracies are too weak to exist.
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Lmao, Maoist hell xD
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They'll keep revolting.

England will be the most powerful country and everyone would be using pounds instead of US dollar when talking about economics.
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Too many variables.
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France would still be in Vietnam, as well as Africa, Russia would be on the Western half of the US and Canada.....
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A world without Democracy mmm,mmm
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Then we'd be living in the world of Code Geass.

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I'm sure America would have been this huge wasteland for the war between the British, French and Spanish. Also empires would still be around I'm sure.
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The "Space race" would not have happened, we'd never have man on the moon, our understanding of astrophysics would be nowhere near the level we have today, there would be no Internet...
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Why, we'd all be speaking English right now if it weren't for...shit.

Anyway, the British Empire made a habit of violently opening markets for itself and viciously protecting its economic interests against local peoples and their governments, so I'm pretty sure that any communist movement that emerged in or around Britain's part of town would have pretty ruthless and influential opposition to face.

As for liberalism, republicanism, and democratic governance not having any importance and fading away without the American Revolution, I really don't think so. Bankers and nobles had already noticed that they stood to gain by limiting monarchs' access to credit, Britain had a long history of parliamentarism and had even once become a republic for a short while, the French peasantry was still being dragged through the mud by uncaring monarchs and aristocrats, it's not as if the US winning its independence was some magical event that unilaterally changed the entire game in completely unprecedented ways. People had plenty of reasons to demand reforms or outright regime changes, and US independence or no squalor and starvation are still pretty motivating.

Edit: A bit too simple an examination of Catherine the Great's rule, and perhaps to assume that the Russian Empire would follow the course it actually did is a little bit of a stretch (maybe, speculative history's like that). Redacted Russia.
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I'm not sure what I would do without a world filled with Freedom.
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