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Is the word "henchmen" sexist?
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Posted 10/9/15 , edited 10/12/15
Is the word "henchmen" sexist?

"Henchperson" sounds so dumb.

Here's an article written by someone who cares about this stuff:
https://stancarey.wordpress.com/2014/01/02/gender-neutral-henchpersons/

Posted 10/9/15
The plural of "Woman" is "Women". So, no.
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Posted 10/9/15

    Male pronouns are used in many languages by default to refer to a third person(s) of unknown gender. The only people who battle this are feminists.

    Anyone honestly pondering the question must have little else to do with their lives.




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Posted 10/9/15
If you honestly think there's a problem with words like that then you probably bigger problems yourself...

Don't make a problem where there isn't one
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byClear wrote:

If you honestly think there's a problem with words like that then you probably bigger problems yourself...

Don't make a problem where there isn't one


To be honest, I wasn't looking serious discussion. I just thought the question would be funny.
I fall in the "Like I care" category.
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Posted 10/9/15

jtjumper wrote:


byClear wrote:

If you honestly think there's a problem with words like that then you probably bigger problems yourself...

Don't make a problem where there isn't one


To be honest, I wasn't looking serious discussion. I just thought the question would be funny.
I fall in the "Like I care" category.


I know u were haha. I'm just saying broadly to anyone who may think this. I'm in the same category, it's like that cringe kinda funny lol
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Posted 10/9/15
What a pointless question.
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Posted 10/9/15
Is calling them "pawns" any better?
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Posted 10/9/15
Or goons?

Seriously, why was this a question.
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Posted 10/10/15 , edited 10/10/15

Terrance_Blaze wrote:

Or goons?

Seriously, why was this a question.


Already answered. Also, "goons?" Can women really be called that?


jtjumper wrote:


byClear wrote:

If you honestly think there's a problem with words like that then you probably bigger problems yourself...

Don't make a problem where there isn't one


To be honest, I wasn't looking serious discussion. I just thought the question would be funny.
I fall in the "Like I care" category.


Posted 10/10/15
I think it's sexist in favour of the female variety because it's not a nice term to be associated with.
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It isn't sexist, because firstly - it typically applies to groups of subordinate men in the first place (how many villains in history tended to have women as minions rather than a bunch of easily manipulated men?).

Secondly, it is just the common word people are taught to use growing up, and when you are taught a word growing up you don't necessarily judge it based on the roots of the word. The English language is filled with oddities due to its development process, and the fact that a certain word became more popular in the past and therefore was taught in the future does not mean that it being taught in the now makes it bad.

Any word after all is only offensive if we decide it is, and I have never heard anybody with any intellectual merit call a word that has "men" in it sexist. How exactly is it sexist for language to be primarily male-oriented in English, when for the majority of history men were the dominant sex culturally-speaking?

The fact that in the last few centuries (less in many cases) women have gained equal ability to express themselves to men in many places does not mean that the language itself is inclined to adapt to those changes - the words that mean certain things simply do, and nobody uses the word "henchmen" while connecting it to some kind of gender-value.

I certainly never thought about it before this point, but I would be the very first person to insist that women deserve equal rights to men (and vice versa, obviously) in all areas. So if I myself am not a sexist by that definition of egalitarianism, then apparently my usage of these words has not affected my values, and if these sorts of words are not capable of making somebody sexist or act in a sexist manner - then how exactly could anybody call them "sexist?" Isn't that entirely meaningless?

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Sir_jamesalot wrote:

I think it's sexist in favour of the female variety because it's not a nice term to be associated with.


This is a relevant point. The fact that the term itself implies that the minions are men (which, again, usually true anyway) also implies that...the minions are men. Which many people could take to mean that therefore men are seen as disposable more-so than women - true sexism against men!

Though I would simply point out that, again, it is simply a word, and has nothing to do with the whole sexism argument unless you are somebody who doesn't care about actual equality and simply cares about silencing speech and bending everybody to your will instead.
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Posted 10/10/15
lmao this serious guy
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Posted 10/10/15
Nope. It can be used for women just like the word guys.
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Posted 10/10/15
Who cares? It can be considered a neutral term, the only people who could possibly debate about the supposed "sexism" of this word would be whiny modern feminists.
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