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First off, this discussion really only applies to Android users.

So its no secret that the removable back cover on smartphones is going the way of the dinosaur. But my question is why? Yes its good when a device feels premium, but who cares if the battery gets to a point where it last half as long as it should. Cell phone batteries always seem to degrade over time. After about a year, they just don't give as much juice as they should. If you're supposed to spend 2 years with a phone on contract, why not have a removable back? I've been very happy with my LG G3 because just a few weeks ago I slapped in a brand new battery and it last all day, just like it should!

What do you guys think? Is it better to have a premium device that feels premium, or a premium device that has a removable back?
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I had an iPhone 4 up until a few months ago. I had it like forever, so the battery only lasted like 5 hours max. I really woukl've appreciated the ability to remove the back and change the battery.
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Yeah.... this is basically a means to force people to rely on professionals... another way to make money. Kind of like built in obsolescence.
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Iberjib wrote:

I had an iPhone 4 up until a few months ago. I had it like forever, so the battery only lasted like 5 hours max. I really woukl've appreciated the ability to remove the back and change the battery.


Yeah. Technically you could replace the battery yourself, but you could damage the phone and then Apple wouldn't fix it.



HolyDrumstick wrote:

Yeah.... this is basically a means to force people to rely on professionals... another way to make money. Kind of like built in obsolescence.


Exactly. That's one of the reasons I love LG. Despite even Samsung throwing away the removable back, in their latest 2 flagships LG kept the removable back. Not to mention not having a removable back also usually means no expandable storage. If you have a lot of media on your phone that forces you to get the biggest storage option.... Yet another way to scam money.
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I've found my phones only seem to last about 2 years anyway, everything reaches obsolescence at the same time so it's never been a problem. My Nokia 3310 I had for a few years and I did replace the battery on that but that phone was more robust.

I would prefer a removable cover, apart from replacing the battery, it's always good to be able to buy new designs and change the look of the phone once in a while. I think they can give a premium feel to a phone with a removable cover.
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Most annoying thing on any new product is non-user-serviceable battery. It's like buying a car with non-replaceable tires.

I shouldn't give Honda any ideas...
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Most annoying thing on any new product is non-user-serviceable battery. It's like buying a car with non-replaceable tires.

I shouldn't give Honda any ideas...


Lol next thing you know you gotta call Honda out to replace your tire.
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PhysicalSquid wrote:


VZ68 wrote:

Most annoying thing on any new product is non-user-serviceable battery. It's like buying a car with non-replaceable tires.

I shouldn't give Honda any ideas...


Lol next thing you know you gotta call Honda out to replace your tire.


Was it VW that made a engine that was unserviceable by the owner? Just like that TPS crap you have to have on all new cars. Now your valve stems cost $100 a pop.
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VZ68 wrote:


PhysicalSquid wrote:


VZ68 wrote:

Most annoying thing on any new product is non-user-serviceable battery. It's like buying a car with non-replaceable tires.

I shouldn't give Honda any ideas...


Lol next thing you know you gotta call Honda out to replace your tire.


Was it VW that made a engine that was unserviceable by the owner? Just like that TPS crap you have to have on all new cars. Now your valve stems cost $100 a pop.


I actually never heard about that from VW. If that's true, I'm not really surprised. All those companies think of is $$$$$. I also love how this went from phones to cars so quickly.
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PhysicalSquid wrote:

I actually never heard about that from VW. If that's true, I'm not really surprised. All those companies think of is $$$$$. I also love how this went from phones to cars so quickly.


Well, it is that they are making so much non-serviceable stuff anymore. Name the last time you saw a TV repair shop? I had a TV last from 1974 to 2002 and it was only replaced when the sound finally died (should have just replaced the speaker) New TV bought to replace? Died in a couple of years. Heck, I've even had flat screen monitors die, and working on them isn't fun.
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While they are not easily removable most -are- removable. Most android backs just have a lot of clips that keep it on there really firm. If you get the right tools you can pop the back off and replace the battery pretty easily.

- Source: I make money repairing these things.
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Rujikin wrote:

While they are not easily removable most -are- removable. Most android backs just have a lot of clips that keep it on there really firm. If you get the right tools you can pop the back off and replace the battery pretty easily.

- Source: I make money repairing these things.


I was mainly talking about things such as the newest Samsung phones and HTC phones. Yes those backs are removable, but they aren't meant to be removed by the user which is a damn shame. If you know what you're doing I'm sure its no problem, but these companies designed their phones in a way to where most people don't know what they're doing and end up screwing up the device cause they don't wanna pay to have the battery replaced.
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PhysicalSquid wrote:

HolyDrumstick wrote:

Yeah.... this is basically a means to force people to rely on professionals... another way to make money. Kind of like built in obsolescence.


Exactly. That's one of the reasons I love LG. Despite even Samsung throwing away the removable back, in their latest 2 flagships LG kept the removable back. Not to mention not having a removable back also usually means no expandable storage. If you have a lot of media on your phone that forces you to get the biggest storage option.... Yet another way to scam money.


The sad thing is, people will keep buying Samsung, just like they've kept buying Apple. Made possible by the ignorance of the consumer + advertising + trends. Has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the product. I'm not saying Samsung and Apple products aren't good.... I'm just saying they aren't so much better than comparable products that they should have such large portions of the consumer base.

I will say it will be harder for Samsung to pull off than Apple, because Apple has built up its cellphone consumers almost solely on the more ignorant of consumers (not to say stupid consumers, just ignorant ones) and trends. Meanwhile, a large portion of Android users chose Android simply because of how much more control they had over their product. Taking control away is not the way to keep them, and many Android users will simply move to another producer, such as LG (Which has always produced good electronics, in my opinion).

In any case, we'll see what happens, but in the end, Samsung my find that the removable backs held more value than the money they'll receive from service charges.
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HolyDrumstick wrote:


PhysicalSquid wrote:

HolyDrumstick wrote:

Yeah.... this is basically a means to force people to rely on professionals... another way to make money. Kind of like built in obsolescence.


Exactly. That's one of the reasons I love LG. Despite even Samsung throwing away the removable back, in their latest 2 flagships LG kept the removable back. Not to mention not having a removable back also usually means no expandable storage. If you have a lot of media on your phone that forces you to get the biggest storage option.... Yet another way to scam money.


The sad thing is, people will keep buying Samsung, just like they've kept buying Apple. Made possible by the ignorance of the consumer + advertising + trends. Has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the product. I'm not saying Samsung and Apple products aren't good.... I'm just saying they aren't so much better than comparable products that they should have such large portions of the consumer base.

I will say it will be harder for Samsung to pull off than Apple, because Apple has built up its cellphone consumers almost solely on the more ignorant of consumers (not to say stupid consumers, just ignorant ones) and trends. Meanwhile, a large portion of Android users chose Android simply because of how much more control they had over their product. Taking control away is not the way to keep them, and many Android users will simply move to another producer, such as LG (Which has always produced good electronics, in my opinion).

In any case, we'll see what happens, but in the end, Samsung my find that the removable backs held more value than the money they'll receive from service charges.


You're not saying Apple products are bad, but you should be.
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PhysicalSquid wrote:
You're not saying Apple products are bad, but you should be. :D


I was trying to be nice...

Not for Apple.... just the poor bastards who bought their products.

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