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What is going on in the head of someone who wishes to commit suicide? A whole fucking lot. I believe people who decide they are going to end their life has a hell lot of courage. It's not an easy decision or an easy task. I mean do you ever think about death and sometimes just wonder how it will happen and why? Life is to short, it's actually really fucking scary to think of. Also, I agree suicide is one of the most selfish actions ever due to how much pain it could potentially bring to others. However, isn't it most disgustingly selfish that whoever/whatever drove this person to commit suicide is going to just get away with it?

Feeling not cared for is the worse thing ever, but those feelings are coming just from being trapped inside the darkness in general. (people who empathize/understand high levels of stress and moderate depression will fully understand that concept). If only people in this world were not so shit that someone can be brought back to the right set as soon as possible.

It's always best to let time heal things, there's so much to do in life to just give up on it. Even if you think no one will care/miss you and you can sit there and swear on it, BUT guaranteed there will be one. That thought is 100% wrong, you yourself will miss you because you failed to care about yourself the most.

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I have a fair amount of experience in suicide.
I've had two people close to me kill themselves.
And to say that nobody cars and to go and kill yourself after that is one of thee cruelest things you can do. When you kill yourself you may be stopping the negative emotion in yourself but you are spreading them to every person that you have ever mattered to in some point of your life.
If you've ever been to the funeral of a suicide victim do you know what most of the people are think as they hover by in silent crowds?
They are thinking why. Why did you do it? Why couldn't I save you? Why did you do this to us?
On the other hand I don't have experience with depression. I don't know what you struggle with everyday. But I do know that if you push through it you can get better. And I'm not just saying that. Its called Neuroplasticity and it may one day be the complete cure for depression.
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Suicide is dumb from my opinion, and this is from someone who is depressed and once suicidal. There's so much more to life than what you think.


that is true but what about people who just don't feel like doing much with their lives and don't enjoy the things they once enjoyed anymore? and even if they tried new things they still don't feel anything..... then what?
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ayesharocks wrote:

Suicide is dumb from my opinion, and this is from someone who is depressed and once suicidal. There's so much more to life than what you think.


what if you don't wanna feel empathy even though you're a really empathetic person in general? >_>
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Humans are one of a few species in which the individual is capable of putting itself aside to further the species all together. Survival, an instinct fundamentally associated with living organisms, is not key in group behavior and functions. That is why people commit suicide, because at some level they care about what other people think, and think that other people hate them. They measure their own worth in terms of whether or not anybody else cares about them, which is an individual translation of the the human ability to care more about other humans than one's self.

To answer your question: Selfish people don't care about other people that much. They are less likely to commit suicide because they don't care what other people think, and less likely to care if somebody else wants to kill them self. Sociable people care about other people, and are susceptible to feelings of inadequacies at the hands of others, they are more likely to kill them self if they feel that people don't care about them. So in conclusion, people do care about random strangers, and you can see that much in human society, where tax money is used to fund programs and pay for costs of people you have never met or will ever have known. People out there do care, they just have to be made aware of somebody's suffering in order to able to do anything about it. If I saw somebody, a stranger, about to attempt to suicide, I would try to talk them out of it, as I'm sure all people who are not sociopathic would try to do. It is human instinct to protect other humans, it is only a question of how much they care, and whether or not they know something is wrong.
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I care not. If someone wants to off themselves go right ahead, don't expect me to stop you.
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People do care even if you're a stranger. People will hhelp you when you don't expect it, people helped me even when I was a stranger to them, the reason? I don't know. I guess that if other people see that you're making an effort, they respect this and will help you further. If people saw you attempting to commit suicide, there's a small chance people would actually care aside from the authorities...
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It may be true that if you picked out a random stranger you observed on the sidewalk, they wouldn't care much about you by default. But your range of actions aren't limited to passive ones- take the time and effort to build a relationship with that stranger, and they may come to care.
Posted 10/11/15
I care to an extent, suffering is just a part of life and it's saddening at times. It's hard to question someone who doesn't want to live on cause life can be pretty rough at times and it makes sense that some people just want out. I probably won't stop anyone from killing themselves, it's their choice not mine and if I do I recognize it as being purely selfish on my part. Why? Cause I see little to no point in forcing my ideals of how I choose to live life, my own ideals onto someone that isn't me. If people really want to commit suicide then by all means they should do it, If they don't then don't. I don't really see the point in forcing my self to persuade someone to live if they don't want to, inadvertently forcing them to live. Nor do I see the point in doing what most see as the "right" thing to do (stopping someone from committing suicide) just so I can appease others. It makes sense to call me heartless or whatever adjective you choose to label me, but I think if you really care you let someone do what they want to do and not get in their way and control them just because you think ill of there choice. However I will say that the same applies to you if you really want to stop someone then do it as long as your being true to yourself.
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HolyDrumstick wrote:


Nalaniel wrote:

Why is it that nobody cares, but they'll say they do if you're about to take your life? What does it even mean to "care" about someone? Is it possible for humans to care about strangers? When I read posts of people wanting to commit suicide, the first thing I see in the comments is "Don't do it, I'm sure there's someone who cares". Does that really help? Because I get pretty angry when I read that. I would try to be realistic.

I don't know what I want to say. If you got the time and nothing better to do, try to give me an answer.


As someone who had a friend commit suicide later in the night, after we argued... and dealt with family and friends blaming me (she pretty much blamed me in the note she left)...

I would say more people care than you know. I still live with guilt and miss that person. I DID care. Just because people are selfish, stupid assholes, that doesn't mean they do not care... It only means that they are not perfect at communicating it. And, sometimes people can be shitty because they have their own problems.

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem... and I would go as far as to say that a person considering suicide because no one cares should probably evaluate how much THEY care about others, if they are willing to put everyone else through that.



It takes a lot of balls to commit suicide, otherwise, anyone who ever felt really sad after having a bad day would've done it. I can't say I uphold suicidal people. But, I mean, something /really/ must've made them feel /so/ bad that they overcame their fears of leaving this world and ending their lives. Either they were really suffering or they were really strong and brave to face that pain alone.

But I do think that people should stop calling them "cowards" because suicide isn't an easy thing to commit.
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most people care, just not enough to actually do something.
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lambofgenesis wrote:


HolyDrumstick wrote:


Nalaniel wrote:

Why is it that nobody cares, but they'll say they do if you're about to take your life? What does it even mean to "care" about someone? Is it possible for humans to care about strangers? When I read posts of people wanting to commit suicide, the first thing I see in the comments is "Don't do it, I'm sure there's someone who cares". Does that really help? Because I get pretty angry when I read that. I would try to be realistic.

I don't know what I want to say. If you got the time and nothing better to do, try to give me an answer.


As someone who had a friend commit suicide later in the night, after we argued... and dealt with family and friends blaming me (she pretty much blamed me in the note she left)...

I would say more people care than you know. I still live with guilt and miss that person. I DID care. Just because people are selfish, stupid assholes, that doesn't mean they do not care... It only means that they are not perfect at communicating it. And, sometimes people can be shitty because they have their own problems.

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem... and I would go as far as to say that a person considering suicide because no one cares should probably evaluate how much THEY care about others, if they are willing to put everyone else through that.



It takes a lot of balls to commit suicide, otherwise, anyone who ever felt really sad after having a bad day would've done it. I can't say I uphold suicidal people. But, I mean, something /really/ must've made them feel /so/ bad that they overcame their fears of leaving this world and ending their lives. Either they were really suffering or they were really strong and brave to face that pain alone.

But I do think that people should stop calling them "cowards" because suicide isn't an easy thing to commit.



Interesting. I never used the word coward.

I think people should stop trying to start random fights on the forums, yet here we are.
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As an individual I cannot comprehend the feeling of wanting to kill 'self'. I'd rather experience a life of pain and survive then no life at all. Not existing is the scariest thing I could EVER think of.
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HolyDrumstick wrote:


lambofgenesis wrote:


HolyDrumstick wrote:


Nalaniel wrote:

Why is it that nobody cares, but they'll say they do if you're about to take your life? What does it even mean to "care" about someone? Is it possible for humans to care about strangers? When I read posts of people wanting to commit suicide, the first thing I see in the comments is "Don't do it, I'm sure there's someone who cares". Does that really help? Because I get pretty angry when I read that. I would try to be realistic.

I don't know what I want to say. If you got the time and nothing better to do, try to give me an answer.


As someone who had a friend commit suicide later in the night, after we argued... and dealt with family and friends blaming me (she pretty much blamed me in the note she left)...

I would say more people care than you know. I still live with guilt and miss that person. I DID care. Just because people are selfish, stupid assholes, that doesn't mean they do not care... It only means that they are not perfect at communicating it. And, sometimes people can be shitty because they have their own problems.

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem... and I would go as far as to say that a person considering suicide because no one cares should probably evaluate how much THEY care about others, if they are willing to put everyone else through that.



It takes a lot of balls to commit suicide, otherwise, anyone who ever felt really sad after having a bad day would've done it. I can't say I uphold suicidal people. But, I mean, something /really/ must've made them feel /so/ bad that they overcame their fears of leaving this world and ending their lives. Either they were really suffering or they were really strong and brave to face that pain alone.

But I do think that people should stop calling them "cowards" because suicide isn't an easy thing to commit.



Interesting. I never used the word coward.

I think people should stop trying to start random fights on the forums, yet here we are.


Well I didn't mean you specifically. I just meant, in general. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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