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Posted 10/12/15
They do suck.
I'm glad I haven't met any in real life.
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Posted 10/12/15 , edited 10/12/15
The appeal of the tsundere is all about those small, ephemeral moments when they blush in embarrassment. Or the moment when they finally accept their love for the main character. It's great, the only moment that matches its cuteness is when the kuudere smiles/ blushes for the first time.
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Posted 10/13/15 , edited 10/13/15

Nightblade370 wrote:

Tsunderes are only as good as the writer behind them. In fact, I often use the tsundere of the series to measure the scale of how good the show truly is. If a show is truly well written, then the tsundere has evolved beyond the archetype and has become a dynamic character that contributes to the story. If the show is shit, then of course the tsundere archetype can be the most annoying of all archetypes when underdeveloped.

Here is an example of a good Tsundere from one of the greatest sci-fi anime ever written:


Agreed, on both points.

1. The character is only as good as the writer.
2. She is an awesome example of a well written tsundere.


thestars201 wrote:

They do suck.
I'm glad I haven't met any in real life.

They are awesome.

I married one in real life






Posted 10/13/15
gimme more dere dere
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Posted 10/13/15
I personally avoid the Tsundere, it gets a bit annoying seeing a girl say "I'm gonna be a total bitch until I'm not anymore".

I mean like, the writer better have a good story as to why she's a bitch or she's just gonna fall off the face of the earth for me. As long as she's not seen that often, I can tolerate the series but if she's like the main character (like that Langley bitch) then I'll just stop caring for the series.
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Posted 10/13/15 , edited 10/13/15
Probably has the most to do with being a pillar to base the harem around. Moody and headstrong enough to keep themselves away from the MC, while also just possessive enough to keep everyone else away from the MC. At least for 12 or 13 episodes.

Lovey-dovey people that are perfectly willing to change themselves for someone else, or else walk away from the relationship ... why would they make for good television? Kind of the entire ideal of gentlemanly courtship is the same: Wearing the partner down over time. Something like "the hunt."

Happy couples rarely last long in media of any sort. "I'm getting married once I get back!" Said every death flag mob character ever.
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Posted 10/13/15
Maybe

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Posted 10/13/15
I really hate to use Freezing as a good use of Tsundere, but I think I am going to.

All else aside, this was one thing Freezing got right. Why am I saying that?

1.) There was a legitimate reason Satellite was the way she was. Really dark backstory, which took some manga reading to full understand.

2.) She did soften over time, but it was really slow and gradual... and it never just fell away. Even when she started being nice, she kept a lot of walls up, which stayed true to her character and backstory.

3.) It was a major point of the manga/anime. It wasn't there as a mere tool, and was actually developed.


I guess my point is, I don't mind it so much when it is well done. I just wish it could be well done in something that has more going for it than Freezing did.
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Posted 10/13/15

periah250 wrote:

ok good points but please note how a vast majority of anime never advance the Tsundere past despising the character but show very short moments of warmth but straight back to being a prick


I wonder how much of that is just delaying the ending to keep the story going, to be honest. Further, sometimes it seems like authors/artists don't actually want their stories to have decisive conclusions, so they'll reset the tsundere's progress even through to the end of the story.
Posted 10/13/15

thestars201 wrote:

They do suck.
I'm glad I haven't met any in real life.


I know one. Is my 15 year old sister. No I no joking. She has her reddening qualities, but god how I want to beat the shit out her sometimes.
To answer the question.
I enjoy all kinds Tsunderes. From the good to the bad. They can be some of the most compelling characters out there. IF WRITING CORRECTLY ! Just like any type of characters you will end up hating them or love them. And yes I do enjoy and love cliche Tsunderes. I just wish they will be use a lot better in anime. I feel like sometime anime tend to over do it. While in manga it come a lot better. Maybe is because of the inner monologue. So you understand her/his reasoning a lot better. While anime just tend to let off the inner thous of the tsundere. Making her/his seen like a bitch. While in reality they are not.
Posted 10/14/15
yandere is where it's at. kill me with love bb
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Posted 10/14/15 , edited 10/14/15

_prey wrote:

yandere is where it's at. kill me with love bb

Most yandere won't kill you unless you reject them. Just give them lots of attention and don't get too friendly with other girls/guys.



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Posted 10/14/15 , edited 10/14/15
I do admit it's become a bit cliche and overused at times, but for me it all depends on how the tsundere character is portrayed in its respective anime.
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Posted 10/28/15
I'm a big sucker for Tsundere characters, It is nice to seem them romantically develop their emotions towards the protaganists. Taiga, Louise ect are awesome examples imo
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Posted 10/28/15

Nightblade370 wrote:

Tsunderes are only as good as the writer behind them. In fact, I often use the tsundere of the series to measure the scale of how good the show truly is. If a show is truly well written, then the tsundere has evolved beyond the archetype and has become a dynamic character that contributes to the story. If the show is shit, then of course the tsundere archetype can be the most annoying of all archetypes when underdeveloped.

Here is an example of a good Tsundere from one of the greatest sci-fi anime ever written:



She is tsunadere but not absurdly tsunadere. It feels more realistic as a tsunadere.

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