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I would love for this to be real but tbh i am going to play vr no matter how old i am
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You do realize scientist already have functional mind/machine interfaces and the ability to directly transfer basic thoughts from one individual to another. While still rudimentary, the technology stopped being science fiction years ago.

The mapping of the human brain and how it functions is far more advanced than you believe.

There was a case where a motor impulse was transmitted across the USA between two researchers, causing one to lift his arm.
There's a big leap between transferring the experience of being conscious, thinking, feeling, imagining, etc. and the intent to move an arm.

The question of how electrical impulses become what we experience as thinking or feeling remains unanswered, which is the first step to send that information over a medium with its integrity intact, preventing corruption from electrical interference, hackers, etc.

I don't think scientific research is likely to probe this question because they would quickly run into problems conducting research on human subjects in an ethical fashion. This is why neuroscience research on healthy human participants is noninvasive, MRI scanning of simple nonsense like seeing where blood flows in the brain during different emotional states. This really doesn't tell scientists much conclusively.

There's also no financial incentive, as such as system really doesn't present much of an improvement over the current internet when you consider the massive R/D costs for such an undertaking, as well as risk to the integrity of the mind.

Frankly, even if we did figure this out, there would be so much risk involved in digitizing human mind that I don't think any human or machine could be trusted to ensure the integrity of such data when it was translated into a digital medium.
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i thought this was about diving into the deepest parts of the ocean

i am disappointed
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cyberfaust wrote:


Dariamus wrote:

You do realize scientist already have functional mind/machine interfaces and the ability to directly transfer basic thoughts from one individual to another. While still rudimentary, the technology stopped being science fiction years ago.

The mapping of the human brain and how it functions is far more advanced than you believe.

There was a case where a motor impulse was transmitted across the USA between two researchers, causing one to lift his arm.
There's a big leap between transferring the experience of being conscious, thinking, feeling, imagining, etc. and the intent to move an arm.

The question of how electrical impulses become what we experience as thinking or feeling remains unanswered, which is the first step to send that information over a medium with its integrity intact, preventing corruption from electrical interference, hackers, etc.

I don't think scientific research is likely to probe this question because they would quickly run into problems conducting research on human subjects in an ethical fashion. This is why neuroscience research on healthy human participants is noninvasive, MRI scanning of simple nonsense like seeing where blood flows in the brain during different emotional states. This really doesn't tell scientists much conclusively.

There's also no financial incentive, as such as system really doesn't present much of an improvement over the current internet when you consider the massive R/D costs for such an undertaking, as well as risk to the integrity of the mind.

Frankly, even if we did figure this out, there would be so much risk involved in digitizing human mind that I don't think any human or machine could be trusted to ensure the integrity of such data when it was translated into a digital medium.

All good points and valid concerns.

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The porn.

"This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper" - T.S. Eliot
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Never, because the machines will take over before then.
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Never, because the machines will take over before then.


My future cylon girlfriend will protect me from this impending doom.
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I personally would refuse immortality even if it was given to me for free. Part of life is death without that there would be no point.


To me there is no point in life if you are going to die.

It's part of the reasons i don't try to complete the things i want to do in life because i know there just going to be left undone.
So i would rather just have fun and enjoy life then take it seriously if i'm just here for a limited time.
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biscuitnote wrote:

I personally would refuse immortality even if it was given to me for free. Part of life is death without that there would be no point.


To me there is no point in life if you are going to die.

It's part of the reasons i don't try to complete the things i want to do in life because i know there just going to be left undone.
So i would rather just have fun and enjoy life then take it seriously if i'm just here for a limited time.


I have lived and seen quite a bit. An eternity of life would be its own torture. Theirs only so many things you can do. After a certain point you would be a post human anyway and not remotely resemble what you started out as. No thanks I want to live and enjoy life and then die.
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biscuitnote wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


biscuitnote wrote:

I personally would refuse immortality even if it was given to me for free. Part of life is death without that there would be no point.


To me there is no point in life if you are going to die.

It's part of the reasons i don't try to complete the things i want to do in life because i know there just going to be left undone.
So i would rather just have fun and enjoy life then take it seriously if i'm just here for a limited time.


I have lived and seen quite a bit. An eternity of life would be its own torture. Theirs only so many things you can do. After a certain point you would be a post human anyway and not remotely resemble what you started out as. No thanks I want to live and enjoy life and then die.


I already want to be post human....xD
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Ryulightorb wrote:


biscuitnote wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


biscuitnote wrote:

I personally would refuse immortality even if it was given to me for free. Part of life is death without that there would be no point.


To me there is no point in life if you are going to die.

It's part of the reasons i don't try to complete the things i want to do in life because i know there just going to be left undone.
So i would rather just have fun and enjoy life then take it seriously if i'm just here for a limited time.


I have lived and seen quite a bit. An eternity of life would be its own torture. Theirs only so many things you can do. After a certain point you would be a post human anyway and not remotely resemble what you started out as. No thanks I want to live and enjoy life and then die.


I already want to be post human....xD


I want to live a simple life free from technology.
Posted 10/14/15
I hope like NEVER! But then again I'm an antediluvian luddite. Or rather I am leaning in that direction more and more each day. I am actually eagerly awaiting that big geomagnetic storm that will disable satellites and knock out the Earth's electronic grid. Fun times!
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Muireal wrote:

I hope like NEVER! But then again I'm an antediluvian luddite. Or rather I am leaning in that direction more and more each day. I am actually eagerly awaiting that big geomagnetic storm that will disable satellites and knock out the Earth's electronic grid. Fun times!


Yay finally a sensible opinion in this thread.
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biscuitnote wrote:


Muireal wrote:

I hope like NEVER! But then again I'm an antediluvian luddite. Or rather I am leaning in that direction more and more each day. I am actually eagerly awaiting that big geomagnetic storm that will disable satellites and knock out the Earth's electronic grid. Fun times!


Yay finally a sensible opinion in this thread.



Indeed
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Muireal wrote:


biscuitnote wrote:


Muireal wrote:

I hope like NEVER! But then again I'm an antediluvian luddite. Or rather I am leaning in that direction more and more each day. I am actually eagerly awaiting that big geomagnetic storm that will disable satellites and knock out the Earth's electronic grid. Fun times!


Yay finally a sensible opinion in this thread.



Indeed



If that happens i will go insane.

You will be the first type of person i kill for fun
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