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People will hack into other people, sounds like a tremendous idea, guys. Can't wait to do stuff at the whims of some random fat kid.


Ikr! Did Ghost in the Shell teach us nothing?

Not just hacking, but what about cyberbrain sclerosis...



    Yes, it did. And there probably won't be any Section 9 around to protect for a long while to come. Even if we could produce the technology within the next twenty years, I doubt it's public inception would take place any time soon after that. The sheer number of variables there are to consider...




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I personally would refuse immortality even if it was given to me for free. Part of life is death without that there would be no point.


To me there is no point in life if you are going to die.

It's part of the reasons i don't try to complete the things i want to do in life because i know there just going to be left undone.
So i would rather just have fun and enjoy life then take it seriously if i'm just here for a limited time.


I have lived and seen quite a bit. An eternity of life would be its own torture. Theirs only so many things you can do. After a certain point you would be a post human anyway and not remotely resemble what you started out as. No thanks I want to live and enjoy life and then die.


I already want to be post human....xD

Personally, I know I could use a new body.

Reminded of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ0Sys0ySkE&index=9&list=PL8EDA16709223D5E5
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Ryulightorb wrote:


biscuitnote wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


biscuitnote wrote:

I personally would refuse immortality even if it was given to me for free. Part of life is death without that there would be no point.


To me there is no point in life if you are going to die.

It's part of the reasons i don't try to complete the things i want to do in life because i know there just going to be left undone.
So i would rather just have fun and enjoy life then take it seriously if i'm just here for a limited time.


I have lived and seen quite a bit. An eternity of life would be its own torture. Theirs only so many things you can do. After a certain point you would be a post human anyway and not remotely resemble what you started out as. No thanks I want to live and enjoy life and then die.


I already want to be post human....xD


I want to live a simple life free from technology.

With an unlimited lifespan, I could spend a few lifetimes on a nice quiet farm, free from technology.

With full dive VR, I could enjoy my farm at night without giving up my day job. Not quite as good, but still worthwhile.
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I'm going to have to wave the bullshit flag.


Not sure that nanobots will be the answer... but... it may not be that far away.

They already insert artificial hearing and seeing devices into the impaired, with some perfecting, changing the input from reality to virtual reality, and a few other tweaks for body movement... I could see it happening.

Not going to put a date on it, though.
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Business Idea: A nursing home for people who want to live out their days in Full Dive.
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cyberfaust wrote:


Urboistar wrote:

People will hack into other people, sounds like a tremendous idea, guys. Can't wait to do stuff at the whims of some random fat kid.


Ikr! Did Ghost in the Shell teach us nothing?

Not just hacking, but what about cyberbrain sclerosis...


Also Remember Me, and Watchdogs.
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2030 is in 15 years, I'm 15, screw time, I feel old now, been alive 15 years wasted the first 5 crying and crapping my pants, the rest playing videogames, watching anime, and slowly going insane, FML.
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sarteck wrote:

I'm going to have to wave the bullshit flag.


Not sure that nanobots will be the answer... but... it may not be that far away.

They already insert artificial hearing and seeing devices into the impaired, with some perfecting, changing the input from reality to virtual reality, and a few other tweaks for body movement... I could see it happening.

Not going to put a date on it, though.


I can agree that "someday" it may be a possibility, but we're nowhere near that level of technology, and (obviously) nowhere near that level of law.

For example, ABIs (auditory brain stem implants) have only ever been approved for adults with NF2 since the late 70's, and only recently was a mere clinical trial allowed by the US FDA for children with NF2. Without actually having a disease that inhibits nervous system function in some form, doctors would be unable to do quite a bit even if the did have the tech to do so. Considering it's taken them over 30 years just to allow children with NF2 to be in a clinical trial to see if they would allow it, I can't imagine that we'd be allowing invasive brain surgery just to connect to the Internet anytime in my lifetime.

Also, as you mentioned, current neuroprosthetics stimulate nerves directly; nanobots would be a whole different ball of wax. We wouldn't be talking about sending an impulse directly to neurons, but instead about nanobots releasing the correct type and amount of neurotransmitters along entire neural pathways.

It's a great goal to look forward to, but even the middle of the century would be far too early, in my opinion.

Of course, take my opinion with a grain of salt--I'm not a neurosurgeon, not a doctor, hell, I'm not even a med student.
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2030 is in 15 years, I'm 15, screw time, I feel old now, been alive 15 years wasted the first 5 crying and crapping my pants, the rest playing videogames, watching anime, and slowly going insane, FML.


Damn it, don't say that, it makes us old fogies feel antediluvian.
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trent8513 wrote:

2030 is in 15 years, I'm 15, screw time, I feel old now, been alive 15 years wasted the first 5 crying and crapping my pants, the rest playing videogames, watching anime, and slowly going insane, FML.


Damn it, don't say that, it makes us old fogies feel antediluvian.


Well, somebody has to make you guys come to your senses....
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I tend to agree with you about how long it takes to get the ball rolling on new tech. It's like graphene... the stuff is incredible, and could theoretically make batteries that charge in a minute or two and last for a week. However, that was discovered in the early 2000s, and we're still not using products made with the stuff. Anything related to human altercation has even more red tape.

However, I will note that technology, as well as the time between "discovery" and "practicality" has been speeding up throughout history. The more we know, the faster we seem to advance. Sooo... it could actually be closer than we realize.

But, as you and I seem to agree... placing a date on it (even a whole decade) seems to be a bit of a reach.


EDIT: Holy crap... do you have any idea how many times I've had to edit this for spelling errors? Don't drink and forum, people.
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EDIT: Holy crap... do you have any idea how many times I've had to edit this for spelling errors? Don't drink and forum, people.


Sorry, I'll have to disagree. Drinking (or smoking weed, if it's legal in your state/country) and foruming is almost as fun as drinking/smokign and Mario Kart.
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sarteck wrote:


HolyDrumstick wrote:

EDIT: Holy crap... do you have any idea how many times I've had to edit this for spelling errors? Don't drink and forum, people.


Sorry, I'll have to disagree. Drinking (or smoking weed, if it's legal in your state/country) and foruming is almost as fun as drinking/smokign and Mario Kart.


Just... lol. That is all.
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biscuitnote wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


biscuitnote wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


biscuitnote wrote:

I personally would refuse immortality even if it was given to me for free. Part of life is death without that there would be no point.


To me there is no point in life if you are going to die.

It's part of the reasons i don't try to complete the things i want to do in life because i know there just going to be left undone.
So i would rather just have fun and enjoy life then take it seriously if i'm just here for a limited time.


I have lived and seen quite a bit. An eternity of life would be its own torture. Theirs only so many things you can do. After a certain point you would be a post human anyway and not remotely resemble what you started out as. No thanks I want to live and enjoy life and then die.


I already want to be post human....xD


I want to live a simple life free from technology.

With an unlimited lifespan, I could spend a few lifetimes on a nice quiet farm, free from technology.

With full dive VR, I could enjoy my farm at night without giving up my day job. Not quite as good, but still worthwhile.


Yea but thats cheating in my book an easy way out. I want to see what I can accomplish or not accomplish in the time I have. Fuck living forever I don't want to live past 60.
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biscuitnote wrote:Yea but thats cheating in my book an easy way out. I want to see what I can accomplish or not accomplish in the time I have. Fuck living forever I don't want to live past 60.

For me, it's not what I can accomplish in a limited time frame, but what I could see and experience with an unlimited time frame.

Adding in VR, or possibly a full scale simulation, removes even more limits. I could choose to experience life on a New England farm in the 1800's or even life on a farm in the Shire.

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