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How is an investigation "fraudulent?" O.o Just because an organization deals with women's issues doesn't mean that any inquiry into their methods and practices is "fraudulent," nor is it an issue of women's rights.

That's like saying that investigating a crime just because it involves women is "fraudulent."


I have to agree, this isn't really a women's issue at all. Pretty much more of a religious thing, if anything.

Can we actually get a legitimate women's issue?

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The fraudulent investigation based on no evidence in an effort to defund an organization they have targeted for decades that, if ever successful, would result in millions of women losing access to essential and lifesaving healthcare.


Wow. There is so much that is absolutely false in that, I really do not know where to begin.

First... the organization wasn't even brought under scrutiny from the government, in the first place. It was the media that brought things to light, and THEN people urged the government to investigate. And there was video. No evidence? Was I high when I watched that or something?

Secondly, "essential and lifesaving healthcare?"

There are plenty of organizations that offer mammograms and other check ups at low costs. Medicaid covers most low income single women for most of those things, including OB/GYN visits... so basically the ONLY thing that the government does not already provide is abortions. Abortions are very rarely lifesaving or even health related. (Not arguing that abortions are bad or good, right or wrong, and really don't want to get into it... just stating facts)

So... what the hell are you talking about?
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The investigation into Planned Parenthood was fraudulent because it was based on fabricated evidence - doctored videos that don't even show PP doing anything illegal anyway - and the congressmen who launched the investigation knew it. The investigation was not a response to public urging. The congressmen had already seen the videos weeks before they were released.


BTW, Prince Judar, I'm still waiting for an answer to my original question: Can you verify that men today have fewer rights than women?

As for the bit about men not having health clinics...


There are many more I could list, but this should suffice.
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geauxtigers1989 wrote:

Some of you are overestimating the influence of radicals. Severely.


PrinceJudar wrote: Men actually have the lesser amount of rights these days.

Feminists keep on bitchin' though.



Is this verifiable?
And where? depends? damn it..


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Hah, np mate. Inb4 a modern feminist comes in and points to a developing nation's issues or cyber violence.
hmm... google ideas... uugh..
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geauxtigers1989 wrote:

The investigation into Planned Parenthood was fraudulent because [...]


Do you know what an "investigation" is?

Do you know what "fraudulent" means?

How is any investigation of anything "fraudulent?"
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geauxtigers1989 wrote:

The investigation into Planned Parenthood was fraudulent because it was based on fabricated evidence - doctored videos that don't even show PP doing anything illegal anyway - and the congressmen who launched the investigation knew it. The investigation was not a response to public urging. The congressmen had already seen the videos weeks before they were released.


BTW, Prince Judar, I'm still waiting for an answer to my original question: Can you verify that men today have fewer rights than women?

As for the bit about men not having health clinics...


There are many more I could list, but this should suffice.


Just because men's health centers exist does not prove they are prevalent, especially compared to that of women. Lol.

The fact you can't even give one blasted good issue on women's rights and the fact I give at least 5 for men. That about proves it doesn't it?



1. False accusations of rape and sexual assault
2. Father's rights
----a. Child custody
----b. Abusive courts
----c. Provide vs nurture
3. Circumcision
4. Domestic violence and violence against men trivialized
5. Male suicide
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geauxtigers1989 wrote:

The investigation into Planned Parenthood was fraudulent because [...]


Do you know what an "investigation" is?

Do you know what "fraudulent" means?

How is any investigation of anything "fraudulent?"


in·ves·ti·ga·tion
inˌvestəˈɡāSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: investigation

the action of investigating something or someone; formal or systematic examination or research.

fraud·u·lent
ˈfrôjələnt/
adjective
adjective: fraudulent

obtained, done by, or involving deception, especially criminal deception.

the action of investigating Planned Parenthood involved deception
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2. Father's rights
a. Child custody
b. Abusive courts
c. Provide vs nurture


This one especially gets me.

My brother had to fight the courts for years to get custody of his kids, and he only got them because the mother failed to show up in family court twice, the latter time because she was detained while passing narcotics to her boyfriend in jail inside a toothpaste tube.

She had so many strikes against her, and the only thing she had against him was that she had filed a restraining order on him (and he was even falsely arrested twice for supposedly violating the restraining order, and proved both times through receipts from stores that he was nowhere near her when she said he was).

She played the system to its fullest in only ways that a woman can. Restraining order, claiming he beat her, the works. Meanwhile, he was a freakin' wreck because he feared for the safety of his children. This went on for four years before the courts finally awarded him custody, and it was only full custody because she had failed to show for the court dates to oppose it.

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FlyinDumpling wrote:
in·ves·ti·ga·tion
inˌvestəˈɡāSH(ə)n/
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noun: investigation

the action of investigating something or someone; formal or systematic examination or research.

fraud·u·lent
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adjective: fraudulent

obtained, done by, or involving deception, especially criminal deception.

the action of investigating Planned Parenthood involved deception


What part of the investigation involves deception?

I'm not talking about the allegations, I'm talking about the actual investigation.

Is there some aspect of the investigation that's deceiving anyone?
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sarteck wrote:


geauxtigers1989 wrote:

The investigation into Planned Parenthood was fraudulent because [...]


Do you know what an "investigation" is?

Do you know what "fraudulent" means?

How is any investigation of anything "fraudulent?"


I don't know. What is the proper term for an investigation that is warrantless and based on nothing, and those carrying out the investigation are fully aware of it and know they will not find anything?

Are we really going to argue over semantics?
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LOL OP ALL THOSE THINGS ARE NOT EVEN REMOTELY PART OF FEMINISM
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sarteck wrote:

This one especially gets me.

My brother had to fight the courts for years to get custody of his kids, and he only got them because the mother failed to show up in family court twice, the latter time because she was detained while passing narcotics to her boyfriend in jail inside a toothpaste tube.

She had so many strikes against her, and the only thing she had against him was that she had filed a restraining order on him (and he was even falsely arrested twice for supposedly violating the restraining order, and proved both times through receipts from stores that he was nowhere near her when she said he was).

She played the system to its fullest in only ways that a woman can. Restraining order, claiming he beat her, the works. Meanwhile, he was a freakin' wreck because he feared for the safety of his children. This went on for four years before the courts finally awarded him custody, and it was only full custody because she had failed to show for the court dates to oppose it.



Yeah. 3 of the 5 occurred in my own family. In the case of Father's right, my cousin (who actually was born on the exact same day as me cool enough) was stuck with her cunt of a mother. She didn't get to meet her father until very recently. Her fuckwit of a mother used her for money, made her work since she started high school. She even held her back in school a year to purposely get more money from child support. My cousin left her mother the very second she could. Her mother took every dime she fuckin' made.

She's living much better since she got away with it all. She was more than elated to become part of our family, meet her half brother and father. Now don't get me wrong, her father is no perfect man lol, but he was a better than the cunt she got for a mother.

The false accusations go full throttle in divorce/custody court cases.


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LOL OP ALL THOSE THINGS ARE NOT EVEN REMOTELY PART OF FEMINISM


BULLOCKS. U MAD BRUH?
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mhm.... and which of those receive government funding to provide services?

Also, why in the hell would you even be worried about an investigation, unless there was something to be found?

Generally, investigations are purposed towards finding the truth. What are you worried about?
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sarteck wrote:


geauxtigers1989 wrote:

The investigation into Planned Parenthood was fraudulent because [...]


Do you know what an "investigation" is?

Do you know what "fraudulent" means?

How is any investigation of anything "fraudulent?"


Sometimes (OKAY, admittedly MOST of the time), you are awesome.
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PrinceJudar wrote:

Just because men's health centers exist does not mean prove they are prevalent, especially compared to that of women. Lol.

The fact you can't even give one blasted good issue on women's rights and the fact I give at least 5 for men. That about proves it doesn't it?



1. False accusations of rape and sexual assault
2. Father's rights
----a. Child custody
----b. Abusive courts
----c. Provide vs nurture
3. Circumcision
4. Domestic violence and violence against men trivialized
5. Male suicide


Bold: That was meant to address those who were saying men;s clinics did not exist at all. Plus, there's no concerted nationwide effort to shut them down as there is with women's clinics.

Furthermore, I fail to see how the effort to eliminate abortion rights, which are constitutionally protected, is not a major issue.
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