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Worst Story Franchises To Take Your Morals From.
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My Little Pony.

Friendship is overrated.
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Pokemon
It seems kind of dangerous to send your 10 year old kid on an adventure around the world.


Same with Dora the Explorer.
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My Little Pony.

Friendship is overrated.


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Ender's Game.

This explains some of it http://www.salon.com/2013/10/30/the_twisted_mind_of_enders_game/

It's actually a fantasy of retaliation without consequences.

This one explains it very throughly: http://johnjosephkessel.wix.com/kessel-website#!creating-the-innocent-killer/ce5s
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Ender's Game.

This explains some of it http://www.salon.com/2013/10/30/the_twisted_mind_of_enders_game/

It's actually a fantasy of retaliation without consequences.

This one explains it very throughly: http://johnjosephkessel.wix.com/kessel-website#!creating-the-innocent-killer/ce5s


I think you may have missed the mark, on Ender's Game. Not to mention there are more books in the series.

Ender's Game is all about consequences and the morality of things. Also, the only thing that I would consider "retaliation" is the war against the aliens in general. Other than that, Ender's actions were pretty much self-defense... though some of it was a bit brutal, to prevent future attacks.

I'm not saying that we should model our lives on the book.... I just think that it is more of an exploration of morality than something that sets a bad example.

Makes me wonder if you read it.



I would also point out that the first story says that she thinks it is not a good book about war.... yet it is on the Marine Corps' Commandant's Reading List. Sooo... basically she is saying she knows more about war than a man who was literally in charge of the entirety of one of the best fighting forces in the world. To me, that's a little arrogant.


EDIT: Oh my God, these sources are terrible. The second talks about how Ender was guiltless about the genocide of the "buggers."

Almost the entire rest of the series with Ender in it REVOLVES around his guilt over it, and his quest for atonement.

Man... now I know the sources to NOT trust.
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School Day's
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Not really a franchise, but Lolita

Be careful when being a murderous pedophile or you might get arrested... for driving on the wrong side of the road.

Interpret that how you will.


If I had a man like Humbert Humbert driving me all over America...
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Important Notice:

It is possible for a story to feature bad events or lifestyles and still not be considered bad for basing your morality off of it, especially if it condemns.
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EDIT: Oh my God, these sources are terrible. The second talks about how Ender was guiltless about the genocide of the "buggers."

Almost the entire rest of the series with Ender in it REVOLVES around his guilt over it, and his quest for atonement.

Man... now I know the sources to NOT trust.


I don't think you've read the second one. It's not about Ender feeling guilt but whether he was guilty of genocide. Card manipulated the plot in such a way as to attempt to make Ender seem guiltless, as if he had no choice in all the things he did- Everything from trouncing the first bully on wards (which itself foreshadows the ultimate trouncing being carried out later on). Card focuses empathy on Ender instead of examining his motives. Ender is made the victim of bullying, by the adults and fellow children... It's as if that serves as some kind of justification. The whole "complete victory by trouncing" logic is not fully justified. Again, this is a revenge fantasy where early victimization justifies a subsequent pattern of violence. There is also a gaping hole so large that you could drive a truck though- That is, surely someone as intelligent as Ender knows that even a "simulation" is in preparation of the ACTUAL? Therein lays a problem in contradiction. Ender was made to look as if he would NOT carry out the task if he knew it was "real", yet he was fully readying and training himself to deal with such a situation. Card conflates this through a cheap trick. So was he training for such a situation, or not? If he was, he would have obviously known. If not, then what in the world was he doing?

...and later work was also addressed:


The “compassion” to which Ender devotes his life in Speaker for the Deadmay be read, not as expiation of his guilt or comforting others, but as only another example of acting out displaced hostility. As Speaker, Ender’s ostensible purpose is to explain the life of the deceased in a way that evokes empathy for that lost person. But, as for instance in his explanation of the life of Marcos Ribeira in chapter 15 of Speaker, despite Ender’s assertions that “there’s no blame” in the actions of the community that led to Marcos’ alienation and brutality towards his wife, Ender’s Speaking is as much a scolding of the living for their callous moral blindness as it is a defense of the dead. We are told that Ender’s role is not to judge; he does this by handing down infallible moral judgments. The one certainty Ender’s Speaking establishes is that Ender is superior to anyone else in his godlike ability as a moral arbiter.
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Keeping up with the kardashians
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Who cares if Death Note's MC has bad morals? It´s a fun show to watch/read, I just watched the drama and it was amazing, edged on my seat the whole time. Why should I let some argument about morals diminish my enjoyment of such a great show? It´s still one of my favourite anime/drama series ever. Just enjoy the show~
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The Bible and Qur'an.
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every reality show about so called relationships and human interaction. seriously, so over the top and absurd also anime about a tsunderes and their pray. nobody ever is gonna put up with that under any circumstances in real life
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thestars201 wrote:


HuastecoOtaku wrote:

Pokemon
It seems kind of dangerous to send your 10 year old kid on an adventure around the world.


Same with Dora the Explorer.


^^
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Romeo and Juliet by Shakespeare lol
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