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Age of Consent Law is BROKEN
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Posted 10/16/15

KarenAraragi wrote:


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Don't have sex while so young, problem solved.


I was 13 year old and from what I remember is this. Teachers and parents talking about no having sex. Guess what ? People were having sex behind school. After school, in the bathrooms. Going out in dates and straight up lying to their parents, so they could have sex with other people.

Telling adolescent no to have sex is like telling a 5 year old no to eat candy. All you doing is reversed psychology. Telling them no to do something is the same as telling them to do it.

I think my mom resorted to show me pictures of sex diseases. God some of that shit is nasty looking.


And telling them to do something is still granting them permission lol. But it was the same thing at my school people fucking everywhere and not getting in trouble for it, so of course it allowed more people to do it carefree. But some people I know were scared of the thought of getting someone pregnant and that's what makes them stray away from sex and I also know people who were scared of STDs as a reason they stray.

Now I'm not trying to say "None of you should have sex anyways" just things would be so much simpler if you were older.
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Yes, and you're free to join the army to shoot enemies when you're 18 but you can't have any alcohol until you're 21.


It,s not that simple. Military bases are not always subject to state law, where the drinking age is set. Until 1990, base commanders had discretion to set the drinking age. Stupid people kept getting drunk on base, then causing trouble in town. It resulted in a change in policy on stateside bases.

It was a sad day when they removed the beer machines from the barracks


I'd think that soldiers sort of need booze. They've been relying on it for hundreds or thousands of years.
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KarenAraragi wrote:

I was 13 year old and from what I remember is this. Teachers and parents talking about no having sex. Guess what ? People were having sex behind school. After school, in the bathrooms. Going out in dates and straight up lying to their parents, so they could have sex with other people.

Telling adolescent no to have sex is like telling a 5 year old no to eat candy. All you doing is reversed psychology. Telling them no to do something is the same as telling them to do it.

I think my mom resorted to show me pictures of sex diseases. God some of that shit is nasty looking.


They need to start doing the same thing at the DMV or when you are getting a driver's license.

Show pictures of really gruesome traffic accidents so people will pay more attention and not drive like idiots.


The military does this to everyone in boot camp.

Extremely graphic photos.
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The military does this to everyone in boot camp.

Extremely graphic photos.


That's the way. I don't subscribe to the view that people should just avert their eyes because something looks unpleasant. The purpose is to expose them to unpleasantness so they can adjust to deal with it.
Posted 10/16/15


Nah what my mom show me didn't do anything to me. I am asexual so even then I didn't have sex unless I really like the person. I don't really know about that. A girl who was a bitch when she was 13 is usually from my experience. A bigger bitch than she ever was when she was adolescent.
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Wait what? I don't get that it's like only 1 year apart first of all, and if BOTH sides agreed to have intercourse or whatever how can one person be at fault. Just because they are a couple months older... How pathetic. It's fucking weird how we have laws of some sort that cover an 18 year old doing things with a 60 year old but in some places we don't have one that Is rational like the Romeo Juliet law.
Posted 10/16/15

Morbidhanson wrote:


Dariamus wrote:

The military does this to everyone in boot camp.

Extremely graphic photos.


That's the way. I don't subscribe to the view that people should just avert their eyes because something looks unpleasant. The purpose is to expose them to unpleasantness so they can adjust to deal with it.


I agree with this. You want somebody no to do something. Show them the ugly side to it.
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Consent laws in many states should be overhauled. They certainly should not be done away with. I don't have a problem with fairly large age gaps, I have a problem with people taking advantage of someone that lacks the life experience to have any meaningful judgement. While not always the case, most people past their teenage years have had enough life experience that it is reasonable to assume they should have meaningful judgement. Teens and lower, it is more reasonable to assume that the majority will not have enough life experience to have good judgement. The laws that allow for a certain window below the age of consent are a good idea (up to 3 years or what have you). Beyond that the age of consent is a bit arbitrary, people don't mature at the same rate physically or mentally. We do have to pick an arbitrary number though because there is no proven and agreed upon method to evaluate such maturity. Personally I think the age for a number of things should be somewhere between 16-18, consent being one.

If I were single I would be okay with dating someone younger or older, but there is definitely a point when the age gap is too big. Going back to college and getting hit on by recent high school graduates was very weird. I'll confess it is a bit flattering, but it wasn't something I would have wanted to pursue even were I single. It isn't like I have a hard number in mind, but I just feel like we would be at very different places in life and there wouldn't be enough common ground. If we're talking just sex with no strings and I'm single, maybe... but only if I felt really sure they weren't expecting more, even then I might decide I feel too weird about it.
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Wait what? I don't get that it's like only 1 year apart first of all, and if BOTH sides agreed to have intercourse or whatever how can one person be at fault. Just because they are a couple months older... How pathetic. It's fucking weird how we have laws of some sort that cover an 18 year old doing things with a 60 year old but in some places we don't have one that Is rational like the Romeo Juliet law.


Because honey this a western country. And most western countries parents, want to control their child sex life. There arguments to both side that adolescents are no mature to have sex with adults. BS really. I made better decision than most adult would ever made when I was that young. But to be fair, they are also right. No every person who hit puberty is mature enough for sex. I rater have a law that deal with assholes while allowing real relations to be left alone. But apparently that too much common sense. Even thou my female cousin met his husband when he was like 26 and she was 15 or something. Now they been marry for years. But like I say is apparently too much common sense to ask for.
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Bear wrestling matches are prohibited (Alabama)


hey man don't knock it. people will do some stupid stuff if there's a large enough money prize involved... or if they're drunk enough... and a lot of people don't seem to get how dangerous bears actually are which leads me to point out that those bears were likely de clawed, had their teeth removed, and were heavily drugged to make it a little more fair and much less lethal. if nothing else that's animal cruelty. if you want to knock an alabama law you should have picked the one that says you can't play dominoes on sunday.
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Dariamus wrote:


Morbidhanson wrote:


KarenAraragi wrote:

I was 13 year old and from what I remember is this. Teachers and parents talking about no having sex. Guess what ? People were having sex behind school. After school, in the bathrooms. Going out in dates and straight up lying to their parents, so they could have sex with other people.

Telling adolescent no to have sex is like telling a 5 year old no to eat candy. All you doing is reversed psychology. Telling them no to do something is the same as telling them to do it.

I think my mom resorted to show me pictures of sex diseases. God some of that shit is nasty looking.


They need to start doing the same thing at the DMV or when you are getting a driver's license.

Show pictures of really gruesome traffic accidents so people will pay more attention and not drive like idiots.


The military does this to everyone in boot camp.

Extremely graphic photos.


Hah, I don't even remember that... Though, then again, I was often able to get out of a lot of shit in recruit training because I was part of the Watch.

I do remember it from my only year of high school, though, during sex ed. I thought it was gross, but it didn't scare the bajeezus outta me or anything--I still would have tried to get laid by any means possible back then, by mere virtue of being a perverted teenager. Maybe it was lucky that I was asocial and overweight, and didn't have a chance of getting any until I was like, 17 or 18.
Posted 10/16/15 , edited 10/16/15

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KarenAraragi wrote:
Bear wrestling matches are prohibited (Alabama)


hey man don't knock it. people will do some stupid stuff if there's a large enough money prize involved... or if they're drunk enough... and a lot of people don't seem to get how dangerous bears actually are which leads me to point out that those bears were likely de clawed, had their teeth removed, and were heavily drugged to make it a little more fair and much less lethal. if nothing else that's animal cruelty. if you want to knock an alabama law you should have picked the one that says you can't play dominoes on sunday.


BRO I really dout any person is that stupid to try, but then again there was this 2 guys in the (mid-1980s, Tennessee) A mile down the road from Middle Tennessee State University, a couple of young, very drunk MTSU frat boys climbed a barbed wire fence that was intended to keep lesser mortals out of an electric substation. One frat boy climbed to the top of a transformer. That alone was an obviously bad idea, but it got worse when he urinated on the transformer on which he stood. As if electrocution via genitalia wasn't bad enough, consider his motivation to pee: a wasp nest "target" attached to the transformer. Needless to say, the wasps were the lesser of his worries. He did not live long.


Edit Yeah people are dumb.
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In the scenario you stated I agree OP. If the two are around the same age (max 2-3 year age gap) there should be an exception.
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So because your cousin couldn't keep it in his pants until his fifteen year old girlfriend turned sixteen, we are expected to believe the courts and legislature must be called into question. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.



Speaking of 16 year olds getting freaky.


Y'all aware of that show "16 and pregnant?"


One of the reasons for these laws is that any child born of these activities would be at a severe disadvantage, as would the parents.


But I suppose empathy is too much to ask when hormones are raging. Good to know where peoples priorities are.
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Posted 10/16/15

Ara-kouhai wrote:

Wait what? I don't get that it's like only 1 year apart first of all, and if BOTH sides agreed to have intercourse or whatever how can one person be at fault. Just because they are a couple months older... How pathetic. It's fucking weird how we have laws of some sort that cover an 18 year old doing things with a 60 year old but in some places we don't have one that Is rational like the Romeo Juliet law.


Yeah only one year apart, now my cousin is getting a felony on his record called something like "Indecent liberties with a minor" and a sentence to serve.

It's even more weird when a 60 year old can legally do things with a 16 year old in most U.S. States...But year no Romeo and Juliet law for my cousin
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