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mrc4nl 
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Posted 10/17/15 , edited 10/17/15
Its has been about 2 months since i started to learn japanese, and I am curious to see how other people try to learn Japanese.

Personally, I use 2 language study books:
1. Japanese for busy people.
2. Remembering the kanji.

I also have a quiz program that lets me write questions, and validates the answers. I use jisho.org and google translate to look up kanji and their meanings. (to add them to the quiz)

The quiz program is called "teach2000" but its in Dutch, so you might try to find something else.


Anyway:how do you try to learn japanese?
Just watching anime is a valid answer too

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I've considered trying, but after 2 years of french I cant speak a sentence so... I just have to hope that the subs aren't to different from what the anime characters actually say.
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ILuvCats11 wrote:

I've considered trying, but after 2 years of french I cant speak a sentence so... I just have to hope that the subs aren't to different from what the anime characters actually say.


I have the feeling most Cruncyroll english subtitles are good, but they stick more to the "meaning", than to what is actually said.
Itadakimasu is a great example, there is no English equivalent, and I've seen many different translations, varying from "Lets eat" to "Thanks for the food" also "wakarimashita" which means "I (have) understood" is sometimes omitted to something affirmative like "yes!", "Ok! " in the anime.




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Posted 10/17/15
Learning a new language can take several years. Just practice, practice, practice.
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Posted 10/18/15 , edited 10/18/15
If you want to learn from another person....
-Take college classes / or tutoring lessons
-Study the material they give you

If you want to start learning Japanese on your own...
-learn hiragana / katakana (writing, reading, and pronunciation)
-learn basic words and expressions (at least 60-70 nouns / verbs / adjectives / expressions)
-understand non-past, past, negative, past-negative-tense, and volitional form of the verbs you learned
-learn basic grammar and particles ( は、が、の、に、へ、で )
-practice using those vocabulary words in sentences using the basic grammar you learned
-learn 1st grade kanji (all the pronunciations and stroke orders)
-at this point, you have gotten past a major hump in Japanese. And you can now have a strong foundation so you can learn Japanese eventually.



Also, Japanese audio and Japanese text, however, is VERY useful.... English subs are good for one word phrases, interjections, and name-suffixes I guess.
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Japanese is quite a complex language so I would recomend to first take courses at an institute, hopefully with a Japanese person. Japanese is very rich in context so using certain words or frases can have a different impact depending on the situation.
Then you may use support applications to practice, there are a lot for android and pc. I recommend as well this site for information, it also has a mailing list that sends you tips for grammar and kanji every day, I find it very useful: http://www.yookoso.com/index.php
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Posted 10/18/15 , edited 10/19/15
I'm currently on a hiatus because of University classes but I some of the material I found very useful:

Genki 1 and 2 Books. They are great for learning grammar, and come with audio mp3s.
Japanesepod101.com has a huge amount of lessons, and every lesson has an mp3 of the dialogue so you can listen to it on the go.
Learn Hiragana Katakana, avoid romaji as much as possible, and start learning kanji right away.
Anki, is a great software to help you memorize vocab.

がんばって!!^^
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http://www.learn-japanese.info/ Has some good lessons. I highly recommend Tae Kim's website for grammar http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/ Simple google searches tend to yield great results that I can't think of at the top of my head.
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Posted 10/21/15
I'm personally planning to learn it as part of my University degree next year, plus I get a year long stop in Japan to learn the language this way. But for now I just try to pick up phrases from anime and so have quite overly dramatic idea of what correct pronunciations are.
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Posted 10/23/15 , edited 10/23/15
In addition to all of the above suggestions, another effective way is to learn by reading manga in Japanese, after you've memorized hiragana and katakana. A lot of manga, especially those from shounen and shoujo genres, have furigana next to the kanji to aid in reading. (Usually, the younger the target demographic, the simpler the dialogues.) So even if you don't recognize the kanji by sight, you could figure out what they are by sound, assuming that you've picked up some words and phrases from watching anime.

Why it's effective:

1. It helps you retain knowledge better, to a certain degree, since there's a story to string together those sentences.
2. It's more fun and easier than memorizing things from a textbook or dictionary, because there are pictures
3. You can better understand the context in which words and phrases are commonly used.
4. Furigana act as a sort of training wheels for learning kanji, which is arguably one of the biggest challenges for non-natives.

And last but not least, take notes and occasionally practice writing and speaking what you've learned.
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Posted 10/23/15
Google translate the dictionary. Just paste the dictionary into google translate then BAM!!! Jk ;3
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Posted 10/24/15
1. Get a private teacher. 2.If 1 fails, sign up for a class. 3. If 2 fails, get an online course. I used rocket Japanese and it was pretty good. Japanesepod101 is good, too. https://testkanji.wordpress.com/2015/10/20/rocket-japanese/
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Posted 10/24/15 , edited 10/24/15
For the kanji, I highly recommend two Android apps, if you have an Android phone.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ichi2.anki&hl=en
and
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mindtwisted.kanjistudy&hl=en

The first link is Anki Flashcard. It can be a little complicated at first, and requires set up, but once you have it set up, it's super helpful. You create decks (flashcards) or download them from https://ankiweb.net/shared/decks/japanese and just study away.

The second link is a Kanji App. It is by far the absolute best Kanji app on the market imo. You'll just have to check it out and see.

If you ask people what's the most difficult thing to learn in Japanese, they would probably say reading, because of all the Kanji. But I say it's conversation. The grammar structure is just so different than English, I have a very hard time getting a structured sentence out of my mouth. Right now I am taking college courses and hope to study abroad in Japan.
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Posted 10/24/15 , edited 10/24/15
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OH! I wanna learn Japanese after I learn my Dad's family's language - French. I have a book "Basic Japanese: Learn to Speak Everyday Japanese in 10 Carefully Structured Lessons" from Tuttle - I wonder if that would help
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