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Posted 10/17/15
Does anyone else have this problem? I'm relatively a good reader and this is never a problem for the most part, but sometimes the Japanese language is sooo fast. Just as i'm coming to the last 3 words of a sentence it would go onto the next sentence. Or sometimes even as I start one it has already gone onto the next sentence. This is usually when subs are a line on top of another line. With one liners I can usually just glance at it and read it straight away. I also feel i'm spending most of the anime staring at the subs and missing out on all the animation.
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I can pretty well. Read plenty of books to get fast enough for subs.
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I've never really struggled with reading. I'm hoping the more anime I watch the better I get. I am relatively new to watch anime with subs to be honest. I'd never watch anything with subs. But I do find the voice acting a lot better as weebish as that may sound.
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Reading subs is a different skill set than reading printed materials. You should get better as you watch more, some series such as Monogatari almost everyone has to pause and rewind. English and Japanese are fairly different languages and sometimes the English translation has more words than the Japanese phrase and sometimes it has less, I think this is what can make dubs awkward because they have to try to keep the meaning and match the mouth flaps.
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I'd think even Japanese have to pause and rewind Monogatari :)

But with a little practice yeah you'll get better. And learn some Japanese.
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I'd think even Japanese have to pause and rewind Monogatari :)

But with a little practice yeah you'll get better. And learn some Japanese.


this, except for the learning part. you don't learn Japanese from watching subs.
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Seems to have worked for my brother ...

When you hear enough of the same words, you learn what the meaning is. I didn't say you'd be fluent but you pick up vocabulary.
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That is just going full on Weeb mode if you learn Japanese from anime.
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I read pretty fast, and have been reading subbed anime for a long time so I'm pretty good at it.
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You have some phobia about learning? First word pretty much everyone learns is "baka." My brother isn't a weaboo but after decade+ of watching anime subbed, he knows a bunch of words and can tell when a sub takes liberties.

Brother: Did he just say "Nose Crap?"
Me: Yes, the translation of "booger" is actually appropriate, since literally "Nose Crap" is used as "booger."
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No phobia of learning. What are you talking about? lol But a main trait of a weeaboo is claiming they learned japanese from watching so much anime. Go take real lessons or something. But hey don't worry, the majority of people here are closeted weeaboos.
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Posted 10/17/15 , edited 10/17/15
you don't really learn Japanese other than the greeting and a few words, most of which will probably not be useful in real life. those greetings, by the way, is usually taught in the very first or second chapter of any standard Japanese grammar book (for foreigners) and as you said, subs often take the 'liberty' to translate the dialogue to something else. subs were never meant to be used for learning. the why trying to learn anime from Japanese is a bad idea would take an entire thread, so i'll just stop here.

about reading subs - i can usually keep up w/o much trouble (except maybe series like monogatari).
possibly because of the experience reading game dialogues quickly :p
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you don't really learn Japanese other than the greeting and a few words, most of which will probably not be useful in real life. those greetings, by the way, is usually taught in the very first or second chapter of any standard Japanese grammar book (for foreigners) and as you said, subs often take the 'liberty' to translate the dialogue to something else. subs were never meant to be used for learning. the why trying to learn anime from Japanese is a bad idea would take an entire thread, so i'll just stop here.

about reading subs - i can usually keep up w/o much trouble (except maybe series like monogatari).
possibly because of the experience reading game dialogues quickly :p


Thank you for your insight
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Actually, that is one of the reasons I watch anime. When I started, the first show I watched (unfortunately, I can't remember it now) had a really beautiful OP, and I just thought the language sounded cool. I picked up a few words pretty quickly (kawaii, hai, baka, and caught on to the fact that honorifics indicate a name), and then made up a system. I would play an episode with my eyes closed, listening for words I knew, and sounds that were distinct, or try to pick out the individual words, even if I didn't know what they meant (For instance, for a while, I heard "watashi" without understanding it, but I knew that it was a word). Next I watched the episode with subs, again listening for words I knew, and trying to fit them in with the translation, relating their locations to unknown words. I learned a few more words that way, and even a few phrases. However, I was impatient, and gave up because the progress was slow. Now I watch anime just because I like anime, although I have been thinking about giving it another try.
I didn't start learning that way because I was a weeaboo, but because I don't have classes in my area, and I was too cheap to spend money on books or courses. Anime and j-pop are the most accessible media that I could use to learn.
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Posted 10/17/15

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I didn't start learning that way because I was a weeaboo, but because I don't have classes in my area, and I was too cheap to spend money on books or courses. Anime and j-pop are the most accessible media that I could use to learn.


you should try Tae Kim's guide. it's free and a pretty good resource for grammar.
or Genki, if you're willing to invest a bit (iirc they also have conversation videos on their site)
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