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Naw because the road turns left or right, not throw it into a panic stop.


Oh, shit. You mean it interprets it as a 90 degree corner, not a contoured wall that curves according to whatever function it actually does?


Sure, there is sensor lag after all.
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Sure, there is sensor lag after all.


And suddenly all those Pentagon projects for things like remote supply carriers and so on? Yeah. Worrisome. We're further back than I thought.
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Sure, there is sensor lag after all.


And suddenly all those Pentagon projects for things like remote supply carriers and so on? Yeah. Worrisome. We're further back than I thought.


Look at all the airbus crashes. Hell, flight 447 crashed because the crew pretty much forgot how to fly the damn jet.
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Look at all the airbus crashes. Hell, flight 447 crashed because the crew pretty much forgot how to fly the damn jet.


When you're right, you're right. Ice crystals. People were killed by fucking ice. The only sane response to auto-cars is "Give it time."
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I guess we can play Nintendo DS 3d or Playstation Vita while having Car self driving mode turn on.
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what if they turn on us
that'd be chaotic
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Wouldn't even see the deer. Good chance that the deer would also take out the front sensor and then the fun really begins. System also currently doesn't have brake temps as well. So going down a grade might cause runaways, because they also use a special kind of automatic transmission that doesn't hold the truck back as well as a manual with engine brake.

I've also had a truck jump the speed governor before as well. Truck reported a speed of 30mph both on the speed and the computer when it was going well over that.


As far as politics go, VZ, you and I agree on somewhere between Jack and shit. But I'll tell you, between your love of alcohol, willingness to examine public records with scrutiny, and experience, I'm willing to hear you out pretty much all the time.

Thanks for the input. No bullshit. You're saving lives right now.


Also tin foil wrecks havoc on the sensorheads lol.

When I was working on autonomous robots, we were using a LADAR system with millimeter resolution. No only did tin-foil hats have no effect, the system had no problem detecting people. We actually turned the resolution down to about 4" to reduce processing overhead.

The autonomous robot I was working on was nowhere near as advanced as what we are seeing on the road today, but I can guarantee you it could see people.


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They are incredible and will be on the road soon.

There's going to be a lot of unemployed long-haul truck drivers in the next 10 years.


They already have some self-driving 18-wheelers, but as I understand it, the law requires that there is always a person, awake and ready to take over, in the driver seat. I don't see that law changing, so I doubt truckers will have to deal with unemployment any more so than they do now.

Well, not sure if they are actually a thing, so to speak. I know there have been some testing and prototypes and that the law is already prepared in some states.

For now.

I don't see truck drivers losing their jobs for at least a decade, but it will happen.



I wouldn't feel safe with a 10 ton truck driving next to me unmanned at 60mph. But yeah SOMEday idk how soon I can see big companies doing what they do to us time and time again taking jobs away just save money for themselves.
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what if they turn on us
that'd be chaotic


LOL attack of the killer cars! It would be like i,robot all over again except will Smith won't be there to save us!


But Seriously I Hate Driving IN Crowded Cities Like nyc, So I'd Definitely Get One Of these!!!!
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When I was working on autonomous robots, we were using a LADAR system with millimeter resolution. No only did tin-foil hats have no effect, the system had no problem detecting people. We actually turned the resolution down to about 4" to reduce processing overhead.

The autonomous robot I was working on was nowhere near as advanced as what we are seeing on the road today, but I can guarantee you it could see people.




Systems in current use can't see them, as well as motorcycles. Maybe they haven't figured out how to beef up the sensors to handle the abuse a truck put on them.
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Systems in current use can't see them, as well as motorcycles. Maybe they haven't figured out how to beef up the sensors to handle the abuse a truck put on them.

It's not that modern sensors can't detect a motorcycle, low resolution systems are much cheaper to install and require far less processing power. A decent LADAR system is expensive, both in terms of $$$ and computing cost.

The system I was working on 6 years ago had a 4mm resolution across a 2D plane. I could detect chain link fencing and road cones, both far more difficult to detect than a motorcycle.

Using an array of low resolution acoustic sensors and a bayesian algorithm I could navigate and map corridors based on doorframe locations without a priori knowledge (even with all doors closed, I could still identify the doorframes). We also used optical systems to monitor environmental hazards, including intermittent chalk lines on grass.



Posted 10/20/15
Me too, I hate driving during the daytime, so many rude people. I like driving at 3AM or something though, nobody, it's so peaceful and quiet. No need to worry about cops either.

Pretty sure I can't afford it anyway.
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Systems in current use can't see them, as well as motorcycles. Maybe they haven't figured out how to beef up the sensors to handle the abuse a truck put on them.


A decent LADAR system is expensive, both in terms of $$$ and computing cost.

It's not that modern sensors can't detect a motorcycle, low resolution systems are much cheaper to install and require far less processing power.

The system I was working on 6 years ago had a 4mm resolution across a 2D plane. I could detect chain link fencing and road cones, both far more difficult to detect than a motorcycle.

Using an array of low resolution acoustic sensors and a bayesian algorithm I could navigate and map corridors based on doorframe locations without a priori knowledge (even with all doors closed, I could still identify the doorframes). We also used optical systems to monitor environmental hazards, including intermittent chalk lines on grass.



You should see the ones in use brain farts in a sand storm as well.

Then again, there are such mixed bag of parts across all companies that weird shit happens, such as some trailers randomly turning on some trucks lights when no-one is around, or ABS systems fighting each other randomly as well. ABS system in the trailer shutting down the tractor brakes because a wheel sensor is detecting a full lock up. DEF sensors also cause issues as well, such as tossing a engine into limp mode when there isn't a problem, then that doesn't even start taking in how bad the roads are in some states. One tractor split every cross-member on the frame at once in California. Only thing holding the truck together was the engine and axles.

No way in fucking hell am I going to want to even see the harness on these trucks and try and troubleshoot that mess.

Didn't see your edit, sounds neat, but holy shit some of this stuff they are trying out isn't ready for prime-time.
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Look at all the airbus crashes. Hell, flight 447 crashed because the crew pretty much forgot how to fly the damn jet.


When you're right, you're right. Ice crystals. People were killed by fucking ice. The only sane response to auto-cars is "Give it time."


Ice and the fact that the co-pilot kept trying to nose up out of a stall and due to the cockpit layout the pilot couldn't see that the co-pilot was fucking stupid.

https://youtu.be/8lBUf4HbIa8

Dipshits at CBS are using the completely wrong cockpit layout, instead of a yoke as seen, they use joysticks.



joysticks mounted to the side so the other person can't see what you are doing.
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