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NEW POLICY ABOUT SHOW ANTICIPATION AND DISCUSSION THREADS
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Posted 10/18/15 , edited 4/6/16
Hi everybody!

We're changing the way we handle Anime Show Anticipation and Discussion threads.

Starting with threads for shows airing in Winter 2016 and beyond, we'll no longer be routinely converting "Anticipation" threads into "Discussion" threads. They will be considered two different things.

UPDATED VERSION that is a little simpler, and more clear, I hope:

Threads labeled as "Discussion" threads
are for ongoing discussion once a show has started airing and should not be created prior to the first regular "airing" of the first episode. These typically contain discussion related to the episodes as they air and also contain conversation generally related to the show.
If the show is streamed online, be sure to only start a discussion thread after it is something you can link to legally! Day early exclusives in other regions, if they are only legal should you have an account in that region, do not count. Discussions are meant to happen when folks can discuss the show. Legally.

Threads labeled as "Anticipation" threads
are those created in advance of a show airing to announce what's known about it. These threads typically center on conversations about people's expectations, hopes, and excitement (or concerns) about the show, and are for sharing new information as it comes up. News about pre-screenings or special premieres of first episodes prior to regular broadcast should take place in the Anticipation thread. "Anticipation" threads will no longer be routinely converted to "Discussion" threads.

A Discussion thread will not be considered to be a duplicate of the Anticipation thread for the same show.

See spoilers for original explanation of the new policy

For a little background on why we made this decision, click the spoiler.


Please feel free to share your feedback in this thread. We're listening!
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Posted 10/18/15
Sounds sensible. I guess it really depends on how active the thread is. I've certainly experienced threads where I've gone to comment on the first episode of the show, and had to wade through 10+ pages of history (voice actor & OP/ED announcements for example)
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Posted 10/18/15
I like this change because the anticipation threads often end up with a different title name, so when I'm casually browsing I've often over-looked threads that I would have otherwise wanted to join in on.
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I think it's unnecessary duplication. I think it would be better to have an index in the beginning of the thread so people can jump straight to where they want to be if there's a lot of stuff before the first episode.

The only thread that I found talking about background info was annoying was the F/SN UBW thread, which is an outlier. You can't contain those people even when they're given a thread for talking about the entire universe.
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Posted 10/18/15
What happens to the Anticipation thread after the show airs? I can't see much point to discussion in there at that time, so would it be locked?
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Posted 10/18/15 , edited 10/18/15

Saemonza wrote:

What happens to the Anticipation thread after the show airs? I can't see much point to discussion in there at that time, so would it be locked?


We're taking a "wait and see" approach to that. If it seems that having both threads open once a show airs is causing confusion, then we probably will lock the anticipation thread and post a link to the discussion thread (likewise, for those who might have missed the anticipation portion of conversation and want to see it, we could post a link in the discussion thread back to the anticipation thread.)

But sometimes things just sort out on their own without much extra interference.
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Posted 10/18/15
I think this is unnecessary. It should continue to be the policy just to change ant to disc thread.
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Posted 10/18/15
This is a fine idea.
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Posted 10/18/15
I'm glad this is being introduced. I'm extremely tired of seeing weekly episode discussions being derailed by people who have read/played the original source material. You should however introduce more franchise threads where that discussion can occur. The more certain topics are compartmentalised the easier people will be able to access the specific topic which they are interested in discussing with less confusion and thread de-railing.
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I understand the reasoning behind this new policy. I don't think it's particularly necessary or needed, mind you, but I get it. Assuming people know about it, I don't think it'd be much of an issue... Although, if there's a conversation going on in an anticipation thread when the discussion thread gets made, I'd just find that a little... "messy".
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Posted 10/18/15 , edited 10/18/15
Going to keep this short but I also don't think it's necessary and there will be controversy. It wasn't really a big issue in the first place except for a few occasional problems here and there.

I always liked CR for being flexible and I think the new policies will really push that in the opposite direction. Maybe we can give this a try (to see how it works) but as a few have expressed already, people have adapted with the "system" and there hasn't been huge issues. It's been like this for at least 2-3 years so changing it with this style isn't what I favor. When I became active on CR forums around end of 2011, there were no guidelines about thread making at all. CR has evolved over the years and we had a "system" made prior to this today. I mention "system" with quotation marks as that is quite flexible, something that I thought was neat for this site as it isn't overly strict. I don't think the new policies are flexible.

LokiLB's idea is interesting imo especially this line:

I think it would be better to have an index in the beginning of the thread so people can jump straight to where they want to be if there's a lot of stuff before the first episode.


This should be considered in the future.
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Posted 10/18/15
Let Stark continue his trend!
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The idea behind this change makes sense well enough, but the implementation seems a bit shaky. The existing structure has it so that every show has one single major thread which prevents confusion as to where discussion is being had. I think with the forums in their current layout, not having this given will lead to potential confusion.

It's true enough that by linking the two threads to one another, they'll essentially be interoperable, but that's adding additional work that didn't exist before. I personally think that if we'd go this route then this subforum needs a tagging system for the various shows with topic weighting for ordering.

LokiLB's idea while nice, is not implementable either given it's unknown the order of relevant posts.
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Posted 10/18/15

CostlyAxis wrote:

LokiLB's idea while nice, is not implementable either given it's unknown the order of relevant posts.


It's actually workable to a certain extent. If you just want to use an index to jump to the discussion of each episode, it shouldn't be that hard to have a hyperlink that jumps to the first post after the release date or time of a given episode. Then again, I'm no web designer, so there could be unforeseen flaws with that plan.
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BlazingRagnarok wrote:


CostlyAxis wrote:

LokiLB's idea while nice, is not implementable either given it's unknown the order of relevant posts.


It's actually workable to a certain extent. If you just want to use an index to jump to the discussion of each episode, it shouldn't be that hard to have a hyperlink that jumps to the first post after the release date or time of a given episode. Then again, I'm no web designer, so there could be unforeseen flaws with that plan.

I was thinking more about when posts relevant to an episode begin and end. For example, Gundam has a one week difference between some sources. So one week there is discussion on the nth episode, but also discussion on the n-1th episode. You can't really hyperlink that.

A less extreme example is just someone talking about an episode whereas the post before it was for another episode. Which gets linked to? Or do either get links given they're not about the absolute latest episode? Basically, they're lost.

The best you can guarantee with a hyperlink is a single post about the latest episode and hope that the following are also about that episode until the next week. While likely, it's no guarantee for that second part.

I acknowledge that the points I brought up aren't even resolved with the current methods, but the suggestion doesn't really solve them either.
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