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NEW POLICY ABOUT SHOW ANTICIPATION AND DISCUSSION THREADS
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Posted 10/18/15
I don't know how this change will be less flexible.

Anticipation threads are often made at least several months in advance, and depending on popularity they can get pretty deeply buried in the forum. Yet when a show airs and someone decides to make a thread about it, they may end up having to get their thread deleted so that the old anticipation thread can be bumped and necroed. It seems like an unnecessary hassle for mods to have to do a bunch of investigation work to pull up those old threads and then make the call on which one is more worthy of staying open.

With this change there can now be multiple threads for a show, and fewer topic locks. Personally I am not a huge fan of forced relegation to any one discussion thread at all, but if it has to be done at least spreading it out between a couple of them is better than nothing.
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Going with Loki and Stark on this one. I mean, I just became active on here and I am enjoying it so far. I can understand why CR wants to implement these new policies, but I feel it would destroy my purpose of discussion, which is to talk about the episode, my opinions, display art, and most importantly, networking with other CR members to just talk about the episode or get to know them. Using 2 different threads destroys that for me because I won't be able to discuss with more people, plus it'll end up becoming disorganized for me and since I liked to be organized, I will probably end up clicking the wrong thread..

But hey, I don't own the site and I just have a subscription; nothing more, so what do I know, right?...
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Posted 10/18/15 , edited 10/18/15

GoldTStar wrote:

Let Stark continue his trend!


Lol, i'm sure the man can continue it in the "Anticipation" threads, but as for the "Discussion" threads, it's first come, first served!
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I was thinking more about when posts relevant to an episode begin and end. For example, Gundam has a one week difference between some sources. So one week there is discussion on the nth episode, but also discussion on the n-1th episode. You can't really hyperlink that.

A less extreme example is just someone talking about an episode whereas the post before it was for another episode. Which gets linked to? Or do either get links given they're not about the absolute latest episode? Basically, they're lost.

The best you can guarantee with a hyperlink is a single post about the latest episode and hope that the following are also about that episode until the next week. While likely, it's no guarantee for that second part.

I acknowledge that the points I brought up aren't even resolved with the current methods, but the suggestion doesn't really solve them either.


As far as circumstances like with Gundam, I just don't go in the thread when I'm a week behind the other sources. Doing that is just asking for spoilers.

It wouldn't be too hard to link to the first post for each episode. The main thing isn't to avoid discussion of past episodes, because that's going to happen and improves the discussion of the current episode (at least for shows with continuing plots). The main idea is to avoid spoilers for when you aren't caught up. Finding the point where posts start to talk about the next episode isn't hard, assuming no post order shuffling bugs.
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LokiLB wrote:
As far as circumstances like with Gundam, I just don't go in the thread when I'm a week behind the other sources. Doing that is just asking for spoilers.

But that's the issue. You'd have to wait until the series finished airing if you don't want to be spoiled. The only way around this is to watch the show on those other venues, but not everyone can do that. The posts will be consistently shifting in these examples.


It wouldn't be too hard to link to the first post for each episode. The main thing isn't to avoid discussion of past episodes, because that's going to happen and improves the discussion of the current episode (at least for shows with continuing plots). The main idea is to avoid spoilers for when you aren't caught up. Finding the point where posts start to talk about the next episode isn't hard, assuming no post order shuffling bugs.

This was an example I gave, but what I'm trying to get at is that if additional work needs to be added, it should be towards a solution that actually makes the new work make sense. I don't think this is a good enough solution for the additional work it adds. I don't mean this purely to your suggestion as I do agree changes need to be made if we're already going to be splitting topics. I also mean this towards the idea of splitting the topics.
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Posted 10/18/15

CostlyAxis wrote:


LokiLB wrote:
As far as circumstances like with Gundam, I just don't go in the thread when I'm a week behind the other sources. Doing that is just asking for spoilers.

But that's the issue. You'd have to wait until the series finished airing if you don't want to be spoiled. The only way around this is to watch the show on those other venues, but not everyone can do that. The posts will be consistently shifting in these examples.


It wouldn't be too hard to link to the first post for each episode. The main thing isn't to avoid discussion of past episodes, because that's going to happen and improves the discussion of the current episode (at least for shows with continuing plots). The main idea is to avoid spoilers for when you aren't caught up. Finding the point where posts start to talk about the next episode isn't hard, assuming no post order shuffling bugs.

This was an example I gave, but what I'm trying to get at is that if additional work needs to be added, it should be towards a solution that actually makes the new work make sense. I don't think this is a good enough solution for the additional work it adds. I don't mean this purely to your suggestion as I do agree changes need to be made if we're already going to be splitting topics.


Nothing about splitting anticipation and discussion does a thing to fix one source being behind another. You either need to stick with the comments section for the video or have two completely different threads.

I was more thinking of having a link to the first episode and possibly the first episode of additional seasons for large threads. I'd only suggest a full episode index for popular shows that have a lot of pages for each episode. I know I've watched shows where it was only me and another person posting, so one page could cover several episodes.
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LokiLB wrote:
I was more thinking of having a link to the first episode and possibly the first episode of additional seasons for large threads. I'd only suggest a full episode index for popular shows that have a lot of pages for each episode. I know I've watched shows where it was only me and another person posting, so one page could cover several episodes.

Well, I feel a bit awkward. I misinterpreted your original post where you're saying to just link to the first episode.

I think my points made still stand, but they were never really relevant to your idea.
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I'm in favor of Loki's index idea.
There are already tabs at the top, why not use them for current shows?
The main difficulty would be overcrowding the area.
Perhaps the list could be organized by year and cour on a separate page linked to by one of those tabs?
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People will try to snatch Stark's job.
Myself included.


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Posted 10/18/15 , edited 10/18/15
My .000002 cents (US) and worth 1/1,000,000 of what you paid for it. Why not just simply delete the anticipation thread after moving over any info (Seiyus etc.) to the discussion thread?
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Posted 10/18/15 , edited 10/18/15

Balzack wrote:

I don't know how this change will be less flexible.

Anticipation threads are often made at least several months in advance, and depending on popularity they can get pretty deeply buried in the forum. Yet when a show airs and someone decides to make a thread about it, they may end up having to get their thread deleted so that the old anticipation thread can be bumped and necroed. It seems like an unnecessary hassle for mods to have to do a bunch of investigation work to pull up those old threads and then make the call on which one is more worthy of staying open.

With this change there can now be multiple threads for a show, and fewer topic locks. Personally I am not a huge fan of forced relegation to any one discussion thread at all, but if it has to be done at least spreading it out between a couple of them is better than nothing.


maybe CR could make a subsection for anticipation threads. once a given anime in the anticipation section starts airing, a mod could simply lock & close the thread. should they add such a section, it shouldn't be difficult to find an anticipation thread for a given anime.

something like this:

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Posted 10/18/15 , edited 10/18/15

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Balzack wrote:

I don't know how this change will be less flexible.

Anticipation threads are often made at least several months in advance, and depending on popularity they can get pretty deeply buried in the forum. Yet when a show airs and someone decides to make a thread about it, they may end up having to get their thread deleted so that the old anticipation thread can be bumped and necroed. It seems like an unnecessary hassle for mods to have to do a bunch of investigation work to pull up those old threads and then make the call on which one is more worthy of staying open.

With this change there can now be multiple threads for a show, and fewer topic locks. Personally I am not a huge fan of forced relegation to any one discussion thread at all, but if it has to be done at least spreading it out between a couple of them is better than nothing.


maybe CR could make a subsection for anticipation threads. once a given anime in the anticipation section starts airing, a mod could simply lock & close the thread. should they add such a section, it shouldn't be difficult to find an anticipation thread for a given anime.

something like this:



The subsection is moot.

Vampire Knight has not been relevant since forever.
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Hehe, I didn't read Loki's idea properly.

Still like it. That would fix the anticipation / discussion issue by getting to the immediate episode.
The only problem is that it would take effort to place the link.

Perhaps it would be possible to link the creation of a new show with an automatic creation of a discussion page in the forum?
Stark's created a standard template, so it should be possible to work with that.
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It is kind of sad that each show has an actual designated forum linked on the Anime/Drama/whatnot page and they never ever get used. It might be nice to have any actual discussion for a show (for shows that are licensed at CR anyways) in those forums.

(For what I mean by those particular forums, you can check out any current or past show and find the 'Forum' link on a page. Here's the one for Comet Lucifer, for example. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumcategory-597521/comet-lucifer))
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Posted 10/18/15 , edited 10/18/15

Balzack wrote:

I don't know how this change will be less flexible.

Anticipation threads are often made at least several months in advance, and depending on popularity they can get pretty deeply buried in the forum. Yet when a show airs and someone decides to make a thread about it, they may end up having to get their thread deleted so that the old anticipation thread can be bumped and necroed. It seems like an unnecessary hassle for mods to have to do a bunch of investigation work to pull up those old threads and then make the call on which one is more worthy of staying open.

With this change there can now be multiple threads for a show, and fewer topic locks. Personally I am not a huge fan of forced relegation to any one discussion thread at all, but if it has to be done at least spreading it out between a couple of them is better than nothing.


It's not flexible because it's up to a mod's discretion or judgement that can lead to controversy. If there's a fixed rule like before, then it would be much more flexible with the previous ways threads are made.

Usually when an anticipation topic is made, threads contain info whether it's general or advanced depending on how much info is revealed. And by general standards, series with news gets their premieres within less than a year, often times much sooner than that. Yes, once in awhile, there are there series that gets severely delayed by years. And usually, a responsible OP would take their own time to post relevant and confirmed news to update a topic. So in essence, mods usually doesn't and shouldn't have to go through any investigation process.

> Multiple topic threads
> Fewer topic locks

Actually, this is the opposite. There will be more topic locks as based on the policy from what I understand, anticipation threads will be locked once a show starts airing. The effect would be the opposite. From any sites I've been to for a general discussion, there isn't a duplicate topic as it's redundant especially related to anime.

It's not flexible.

Again though, I support LokiLB's idea about the episode linking idea. It can easily be edited into the discussion threads index once a show has started airing/pre-aired. After all, why make a discussion topic if there won't be discussions?
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