Is it called "historical fiction" if I'm just writing the entire history of a fictional country?
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Let's say you wanted to write an entire novel about a fictional country's history. You want to write about all the things that has happened to and in the country. Pretty much your giving a history lesson on a fictional country the same way you would a real country. Should the person who is writing this novel do research from history books to get a better understanding of how to write the history of a country? The history goes from people to events that changed the country.


Is it called "historical fiction"?
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qualeshia3 wrote:

Let me know if a thread like this one exist or not.
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Let's say you wanted to write a novel about a fictional country's history. You want to write about all the things that has happened to and in the country. Pretty much your giving a history lesson on a fictional country the same way you would a real country. Should the person who is writing this novel do research from history books to get a better understanding of how to write the history of a country? The history goes from people to events that changed the country.


Is it called "historical fiction"?


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I wouldn't consider it to be historical fiction. If you call it Historical Fiction it will just confuse people. "HIstorical fiction" as a genre can include a range of things, but pretty much at its core is a real historical setting and usually historical events, around which a fictional story is told. Sometimes it's mostly history with some fiction thrown in (to fill gaps for what is not/cannot be historically known); other times is mostly some real history for "flavor" even if the history itself is embellished.
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I don't think it would be called historical fiction but researching through history books couldn't hurt.

I struggle to see why someone would want to write something like that unless it was serving as a companion to another work though.
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I don't think it would be called historical fiction but researching through history books couldn't hurt.

I struggle to see why someone would want to write something like that unless it was serving as a companion to another work though.


Probably because they want to make up their own history of some made up country. I'm considering it.
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To answer the question at the end of the OP, no it is not historical fiction. Historical fiction is that which takes periods of history and uses it as a setting to create a fictional story. This sort of thing that you would theoretically be working on is still encompassed under fiction. Maybe Fictional History would be a term for it but even that comes off as quite strange to say.

To answer the other part of the question, to whether or not reading history books is a good idea, yes, like someone attempting to write scifi, like one attempting fantasy, looking at works in the genre you're working on is a great way, not only to explore ideas that have been done already, or ideas that haven't, but also looking at the ways one can spin what has been done in new and exciting ways. In this case, looking at history from various sources would be interesting, if only to contrast how different cultures look at various parts of history. This in and of itself is valuable because, in my opinion, it would be interesting to make the history inconsistent, contradictory and in some cases propaganda like in nature. Not only then do you create a history of a nation, but you also that degree of meta commentary on the nature of 'history is written by the victor."
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To answer the question at the end of the OP, no it is not historical fiction. Historical fiction is that which takes periods of history and uses it as a setting to create a fictional story. This sort of thing that you would theoretically be working on is still encompassed under fiction. Maybe Fictional History would be a term for it but even that comes off as quite strange to say.

To answer the other part of the question, to whether or not reading history books is a good idea, yes, like someone attempting to write scifi, like one attempting fantasy, looking at works in the genre you're working on is a great way, not only to explore ideas that have been done already, or ideas that haven't, but also looking at the ways one can spin what has been done in new and exciting ways. In this case, looking at history from various sources would be interesting, if only to contrast how different cultures look at various parts of history. This in and of itself is valuable because, in my opinion, it would be interesting to make the history inconsistent, contradictory and in some cases propaganda like in nature. Not only then do you create a history of a nation, but you also that degree of meta commentary on the nature of 'history is written by the victor."



Should I go through with it?
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qualeshia3 wrote:


LITVoid wrote:

To answer the question at the end of the OP, no it is not historical fiction. Historical fiction is that which takes periods of history and uses it as a setting to create a fictional story. This sort of thing that you would theoretically be working on is still encompassed under fiction. Maybe Fictional History would be a term for it but even that comes off as quite strange to say.

To answer the other part of the question, to whether or not reading history books is a good idea, yes, like someone attempting to write scifi, like one attempting fantasy, looking at works in the genre you're working on is a great way, not only to explore ideas that have been done already, or ideas that haven't, but also looking at the ways one can spin what has been done in new and exciting ways. In this case, looking at history from various sources would be interesting, if only to contrast how different cultures look at various parts of history. This in and of itself is valuable because, in my opinion, it would be interesting to make the history inconsistent, contradictory and in some cases propaganda like in nature. Not only then do you create a history of a nation, but you also that degree of meta commentary on the nature of 'history is written by the victor."



Should I go through with it?


Definitely, this is not me trying to dissuade you at all. Never assume that. All I'm saying is that if you do, put the hard time in making sure it's the best you can make it.
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LITVoid wrote:


qualeshia3 wrote:


LITVoid wrote:

To answer the question at the end of the OP, no it is not historical fiction. Historical fiction is that which takes periods of history and uses it as a setting to create a fictional story. This sort of thing that you would theoretically be working on is still encompassed under fiction. Maybe Fictional History would be a term for it but even that comes off as quite strange to say.

To answer the other part of the question, to whether or not reading history books is a good idea, yes, like someone attempting to write scifi, like one attempting fantasy, looking at works in the genre you're working on is a great way, not only to explore ideas that have been done already, or ideas that haven't, but also looking at the ways one can spin what has been done in new and exciting ways. In this case, looking at history from various sources would be interesting, if only to contrast how different cultures look at various parts of history. This in and of itself is valuable because, in my opinion, it would be interesting to make the history inconsistent, contradictory and in some cases propaganda like in nature. Not only then do you create a history of a nation, but you also that degree of meta commentary on the nature of 'history is written by the victor."



Should I go through with it?


Definitely, this is not me trying to dissuade you at all. Never assume that. All I'm saying is that if you do, put the hard time in making sure it's the best you can make it.


Thanks.
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im writing a historical fiction. im using real people in real places in a war that really happened. im using the real timeline and have my charicters die off or live according to the real people. im useing a real enemy and following the time line of the war. thats all history.
the rest of what im writing is fiction.
pretty sure thats historical fiction. well, me thinks so anyways.
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im writing a historical fiction. im using real people in real places in a war that really happened. im using the real timeline and have my charicters die off or live according to the real people. im useing a real enemy and following the time line of the war. thats all history.
the rest of what im writing is fiction.
pretty sure thats historical fiction. well, me thinks so anyways.


Are you sure?
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qualeshia3 wrote:


nemoskull wrote:

im writing a historical fiction. im using real people in real places in a war that really happened. im using the real timeline and have my charicters die off or live according to the real people. im useing a real enemy and following the time line of the war. thats all history.
the rest of what im writing is fiction.
pretty sure thats historical fiction. well, me thinks so anyways.


Are you sure?


im only sure of death and taxes. scratch that, just taxes.
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nemoskull wrote:


qualeshia3 wrote:


nemoskull wrote:

im writing a historical fiction. im using real people in real places in a war that really happened. im using the real timeline and have my charicters die off or live according to the real people. im useing a real enemy and following the time line of the war. thats all history.
the rest of what im writing is fiction.
pretty sure thats historical fiction. well, me thinks so anyways.


Are you sure?


im only sure of death and taxes. scratch that, just taxes.


Okay then.
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will be nice the idea....a history of another world that don't exits....look lord of the rings
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will be nice the idea....a history of another world that don't exits....look lord of the rings


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