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Do You Have the Right To Defend Yourself Against the Police?
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Posted 10/27/15
depends on the state and your skin color
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Posted 10/28/15

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Brutally beat peaceful protesters then charge them with resisting arrest, assaulting officers, and disorderly conduct in full view of everyone. Because of a lack of video evidence the police testimonies were accepted over hundreds of on lookers. Welcome to Chicago.
anything can be considered rebellious to people, especially to cops who have a history of unwarranted violent behaviors


Thankfully now police get recorded by everyone and when they do something very questionable they get caught because of video proof. Used to be a cops word vs a "criminal".
Posted 10/28/15 , edited 10/28/15

If a cop suddenly throws you down and beat you and hurt you and you haven't done anything wrong you know you're innocent, would you take the beating or fight back?


lol then that cop needs anger management.
somebody came at me once, very angry and i don't know what the hell is going on but i just stared at him and he stopped. some people are just ridiculous. if you show them that you're very calm, it's likely that they will behave more rationally. chances are that they are just scared and believe that you might have reason to lash out.
not everyone is capable of being deathly calm though so... defend yourself if you wish to do so... only, you should decide before you're already on the ground i suppose lol. what's the point if you're already losing? you probably didn't plan to have your gun in your person at that moment. they're most likely relying on the element of surprise.
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It wouldn't be about whether I have the right or not. If someone comes at me with the intent to attack, cop or not, I would automatically fight back. It would be an automatic reaction for me!
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In the case of the police, It's probably best to just cooperate.

If they step over the line, settle it in court with lawyers.
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Posted 10/28/15

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You should but you don't, they could just kill you and say self defence. It's what they do most of the time.
So it's just better to put up with it and make a complaint later, rather than be dead.

Watched one recording of this 17 year old (not big in any way was in that awkward lanky faze) who would not get out of his car or show his Driver's licence, so the cop dragged him out made him lay on the ground and then tased him and then jumped on him and shot him 7 times. Cop said it was self defense and did not get in trouble at all, even though the video SHOWED him murder that guy NOT in self defence.

Yes the teen should have listened to the cop but that does not give reason to murder him, he had his licence plate written down, he could have just called it in and got his info and gave him a ticket.


We must have seen read different stories did you see the cops injuries? I won't post them here since i'm pretty sure I can't post anything graphic so take a look here if your interested.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3275534/Devastated-relatives-file-lawsuit-against-sheriff-s-deputy-shot-dead-unarmed-teenager-flashed-car-lights-him.html



How and when should he have done that? If you watched the video, the kid never attacked him and never had time to do anything like that, last thing we saw the kid was lying on the ground being tased and then a second later the video goes black and he starts shooting, there was not even enough time for the kid to get off the ground and turn to hit him.

Also even if he did some how have super speed to leap from the ground, turn and attack with such damage within 2 second this shows the point that no you can not defend yourself against the cops when they drag you out of your car tase you and jump on you. Unless you want to be shot until your dead.
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Posted 10/28/15
Just do what they say, here in Oregon our police won't even think about arresting or even ticketing you if you have never done anything wrong.
In my state (Oregon) the police are as good as they get, they don't fool around, and as long as you don't break the law, they won't arrest or even ticket you, which is why, well, yes you can resist and defend yourself, but here in Oregon where the police are the best in the state, I think it's rather stupid to resist or defend from our police.
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I prefer not to fight....I was given a ticket last week for speeding and I just made a question and the police was like "give me your license " and ignored my question

I had to pay $75

I've been forgiven like 2 times because I kept my mouth shut and tried to look like I was on the verge of tears.
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It's unfortunate that we live in an era where not all policemen are guardian angels.
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Posted 10/28/15

king1235 wrote:

It's unfortunate that we live in an era where not all policemen are guardian angels.


You're implying there was an era where police were guardian angels. Bias, police brutality, and even corruption have always existed among law enforcement.
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Posted 10/28/15
I think a lot of things lead up to a cop coming to the decision to "throw you to the ground" before the cop actually does something like that.

So no.

You do what the cop wants with respect and understanding. Even if you're being wrongly accused. You cooperate. You have the right to an attorney, and that's what the justice system is for. You don't escalate things, because that only makes it a worse situation for yourself.
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Posted 10/29/15

PruBenAzul wrote:

I think a lot of things lead up to a cop coming to the decision to "throw you to the ground" before the cop actually does something like that.

So no.


That goes under the naive assumption that every cop is always some "agent of justice" seeking to protect the law. Just because someone is an authority does not mean that what they are doing is always well-intentioned, nor does it mean that it's a legal exercise of their power. I respect the law, but just because someone enforces it doesn't mean they're incapable of violating it. That's something which is blatantly apparent -- both in the past and in modern-day society.
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Posted 10/29/15
I think you should have the right to protect yourself against the police, or at least punish the police more for breaking the rules.
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Posted 10/29/15 , edited 10/29/15
sure. in court. dont fight a guy who has authority and also a gun hire a lawyer son

i just hope you weren't stealing or killing someone before defending yourself against law enforcement
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Obviously there have been a lot of documented cases in which police officers used excessive force and brutality. Those cases should have never happened, and should be thoroughly investigated. However, it seems that a lot of people here have a naïve view of how things are supposed to go with police officers. Enforcing the law properly is literally what cops are paid to do. The vast majority of people are not going to act in a way that would cause them to lose their livelihood, meaning that its irrational to believe that you will ever be targeted for by a cop for no apparent reason. It's just incredibly unlikely. It's sensationalism.

Also, consider exactly what a cops job is. They are there to keep control over whatever the situation may be. They don't exactly have the option to give up. If a cop fails at his job, then at the very least, the law is not upheld. At worst, they end up dead, or innocent civilians die. At the end of the day they're just people working jobs, they just have a lot more to lose if something goes wrong, hence why they need to exert control over a situation.

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