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Something's strange here. It's great that Trump doesn't take up half the screen time anymore, but why are the mods so eager to have Kasich speak? He's at the very bottom of the list and contributes nothing new.
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Have they mentioned Ronald Reagan?
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Sadly I am working, hopefully someone does a Stone Cold Stunner on someone.
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Holy crap, Trump's closing statement! Hitting them right in the heart!
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Krispy Kreme's closing statement sounded like he was recording a car commercial. I can't believe that nickname was actually used on that stage.

Carly Fiorina is delusional. "I am Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare." lol Hillary doesn't even know who you are!
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Probably the most policy oriented debate for the Republicans thus far. That's why I was flipping and screaming at Ted Cruz and others for criticizing the questions and the moderators.
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Disgraceful debate because of the moderators' TERRIBLE, absolutely TERRIBLE questions. CNBC should never host another debate again.

But the candidates handled it really well and answered the questions as best they could considering the mockery of the questions. They united together and actually tried talking about things that mattered than "he said! she said!" I think that went a lot better for them and they looked more like a unit tonight, it was a lot easier to watch.

It was great to actually see them band together and have a civil debate. The Republicans were the winners of the night, the moderators lost.

Cruz, Christie, and Rubio especially stood out tonight.


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Carly Fiorina is delusional. "I am Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare." lol Hillary doesn't even know who you are!


I was thinking this too lol. Hillary could care less about her.
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Rohzek wrote:

Probably the most policy oriented debate for the Republicans thus far. That's why I was flipping and screaming at Ted Cruz and others for criticizing the questions and the moderators.


It was supposed to be their most policy oriented debate thus far. What happened instead was it was the moderators who weren't taking it seriously and you can tell the audience was getting tired of that too. Almost every question they asked to Trump or about Trump was about him being a joke. Right from the start, they ask him "you think this is a comic book? You running for a comic book presidency?" I actually think Trump is a joke, but the moderators have a responsibility to address every candidate fairly. They set up a question for Rubio so he could attack Jeb and Rubio called them out for it. There were a lot of moments when the crowd was booing at the moderators for asking blatantly obvious "cage match" questions and when they tried running over Rand after Cruz set up the perfect opportunity to bring him into the conversation. Carson, Rubio, Cruz, while I don't like them, they were in the right to call out the moderators for their obvious instigating.

This is the first debate where the republicans on stage looked good due to the moderators acting like clowns. The moderators even spent half their time talking over each other.
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Rohzek wrote:

Probably the most policy oriented debate for the Republicans thus far. That's why I was flipping and screaming at Ted Cruz and others for criticizing the questions and the moderators.


It was supposed to be their most policy oriented debate thus far. What happened instead was it was the moderators who weren't taking it seriously and you can tell the audience was getting tired of that too. Almost every question they asked to Trump or about Trump was about him being a joke. Right from the start, they ask him "you think this is a comic book? You running for a comic book presidency?" I actually think Trump is a joke, but the moderators have a responsibility to address every candidate fairly. They set up a question for Rubio so he could attack Jeb and Rubio called them out for it. There were a lot of moments when the crowd was booing at the moderators for asking blatantly obvious "cage match" questions and when they tried running over Rand after Cruz set up the perfect opportunity to bring him into the conversation. Carson, Rubio, Cruz, while I don't like them, they were in the right to call out the moderators for their obvious instigating.

This is the first debate where the republicans on stage looked good due to the moderators acting like clowns. The moderators even spent half their time talking over each other.


So there were a few bad questions. Big deal. That's a heck of a lot better than the previous two on Fox and CNN. At least we got a good picture of their tax policy, plans for social security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. That's a lot more than can be said for the previous two, especially CNN's absolute horrible debate. Almost every one of those questions posed by CNBC was policy and detail oriented. The minute they asked a sensitive policy related question to Cruz, he complained about how none of the questions were policy oriented. It was utter nonsense.
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So there were a few bad questions. Big deal. That's a heck of a lot better than the previous two on Fox and CNN. At least we got a good picture of their tax policy, plans for social security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. That's a lot more than can be said for the previous two, especially CNN's absolute horrible debate. Almost every one of those questions posed by CNBC was policy and detail oriented. The minute they asked a sensitive policy related question to Cruz, he complained about how none of the questions were policy oriented. It was utter nonsense.


Sounds like you weren't paying attention to the questions. Most of the questions that involved multiple candidates were "hey, that guy to your left thinks this. Explain why he's wrong and you're right." Marco Rubio even pointed that out and contrasted that with the democratic debate, which was "hey, let's talk about your policies and not have hundreds of questions asking you to talk smack about someone else on stage."

The moderators made it plain as day that all they were focused on was getting the candidates to fight each other. Fox and CNN did a much better job at not shoving that in everyone's faces.

If there's one positive thing to say about tonight's debate, it's that the candidates stood together against the moderators' troll bait and went the entire night trying to talk about their policies rather than attacking each other.
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As someone who has actually studied broadcasting to some extent as well as participated in multiple roles associated in a broadcast, I found this to be laughable in how poorly it was done.

The amount of paper rustling, sniffing, coughing, whispers, etc that came through on various mics was so absurd and distracting I could barely believe what I was hearing. Plus there were a multitude of times where questions were either asked or answered on mics that weren't hot. Real amateur hour. The whole network looked bad for that. But the worst was how the moderators not only talked over and interrupted candidates constantly, but they even interrupted and talked over each other regularly as well.

Putting aside the inadequacies of the network, I thought that it was nice to see the candidates go into more detail on their economic proposals. I found a lot of the discussion to be more lively and interesting than the first two debates. I got less of a clown car vibe than before, I guess. A lot of their proposals for sweeping changes I am pretty reticent to believe as good ideas at this point though. I thought John Kasich actually made some good points in that regard early on.

I thought that Chris Christie made a pretty good showing for himself, which I felt was lacking in previous debates. And I thought Carly Fiorina did well again. My favorites I guess? *shrug* My state goes the caucus route, and that's a pain in the ass to participate in. So it doesn't really matter who I support or not at the end of the day.
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Rohzek wrote:

So there were a few bad questions. Big deal. That's a heck of a lot better than the previous two on Fox and CNN. At least we got a good picture of their tax policy, plans for social security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. That's a lot more than can be said for the previous two, especially CNN's absolute horrible debate. Almost every one of those questions posed by CNBC was policy and detail oriented. The minute they asked a sensitive policy related question to Cruz, he complained about how none of the questions were policy oriented. It was utter nonsense.


Sounds like you weren't paying attention to the questions. Most of the questions that involved multiple candidates were "hey, that guy to your left thinks this. Explain why he's wrong and you're right." Marco Rubio even pointed that out and contrasted that with the democratic debate, which was "hey, let's talk about your policies and not have hundreds of questions asking you to talk smack about someone else on stage."

The moderators made it plain as day that all they were focused on was getting the candidates to fight each other. Fox and CNN did a much better job at not shoving that in everyone's faces.

If there's one positive thing to say about tonight's debate, it's that the candidates stood together against the moderators' troll bait and went the entire night trying to talk about their policies rather than attacking each other.


What are you talking about with Fox and CNN? CNN intentionally announced before their debate that they were gonna try to goad the candidates to attack each other. And they did it the worst way possible by avoiding the details of the issues. Fox was even worse. Anyone remember "Raise your hand if you will support the Republican nominee?" That and so many other questions were directed solely at Trump to raise ratings. The CNBC debate was far superior precisely because it had much less of this nonsense. I learned a lot about these candidates' plans and the details of them. It was the most informative Republican debate thus far.

Actually I was paying attention. I don't consider criticism of other Republicans' policies to be a bad question. Asking someone, "Hey what's your policy and how is it better than X's." That's a good question to ask. As for the Democratic Debate, they received those questions too. They were just able to handle it a lot better because there were fewer candidates and let's face it, many of them have many more years of experience in politics than some of the Republican frontrunners atm. So they are better prepped for not falling into the slugfest. If a candidate cannot issue criticism without falling into meaningless slugfest rhetoric, then they aren't cut out for the job.
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have to listen to it at work tomorrow.


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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You realize if you only consider one party then you are voting based on favourites not who you think can run the country the best?


i watched the debate. i was not impressed.

i still say BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no offense to you. you're a fellow Crunchyroll member
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What are you talking about with Fox and CNN? CNN intentionally announced before their debate that they were gonna try to goad the candidates to attack each other. And they did it the worst way possible by avoiding the details of the issues. Fox was even worse. Anyone remember "Raise your hand if you will support the Republican nominee?" That and so many other questions were directed solely at Trump to raise ratings. The CNBC debate was far superior precisely because it had much less of this nonsense. I learned a lot about these candidates' plans and the details of them. It was the most informative Republican debate thus far.

Actually I was paying attention. I don't consider criticism of other Republicans' policies to be a bad question. Asking someone, "Hey what's your policy and how is it better than X's." That's a good question to ask. As for the Democratic Debate, they received those questions too. They were just able to handle it a lot better because there were fewer candidates and let's face it, many of them have many more years of experience in politics than some of the Republican frontrunners atm. So they are better prepped for not falling into the slugfest. If a candidate cannot issue criticism without falling into meaningless slugfest rhetoric, then they aren't cut out for the job.


Actually, CNN set the questions up so that the candidates would interact with each more, much like a real debate between fewer people. In the first two debates, it was mostly the candidates trying to attack each other. The problem lies mostly with them, not the moderators. Both CNN and Fox had their own problems, but they didn't make the troll baiting this obvious.

In this debate, CNBC set up the questions so that they would spend less time explaining their policies and more time attacking the other candidates. They were set up to lead the candidates into this "meaningless slugfest" you don't like. It wasn't just one or two questions. They were doing this the entire night. It was less "what's good about your ideas?" and more "what's bad about everyone else's ideas?" It's the complete opposite of how the democratic debate went down last week. The reason you were able to learn so much about the candidates' policies this time is because the candidates didn't take the obvious bait and used their time to talk about their policies instead of what the moderators were telling them to do.
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I missed it
Guess ill watch it tomorrow
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