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So raising the debt level to ungodly levels with no spending cuts and non plans how to deal with it is common sense to you?



What are the specific negative effects of government debt? In addition, what are the positive effects of a government surplus?


Ever heard of interest? It's what you pay monthly on debt you own. Interest rates are near 0% right now so interest isn't affecting us much now. When interest rates increase more and more of our budget will go towards paying interest. Which means we have to increase taxes to pay for increased interest rates.

A positive government surplus means we can pay off debt and not burden future generations with mountains of debt. Also we can reinvest it into infrastructure in the USA which needs some major repairs.

A side effect of having little debt is the value of our money increases because it is a safer investment.


Where does the money come from that pays down the debt?

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Bantarific wrote:


Rujikin wrote:


Bantarific wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

So raising the debt level to ungodly levels with no spending cuts and non plans how to deal with it is common sense to you?



What are the specific negative effects of government debt? In addition, what are the positive effects of a government surplus?


Ever heard of interest? It's what you pay monthly on debt you own. Interest rates are near 0% right now so interest isn't affecting us much now. When interest rates increase more and more of our budget will go towards paying interest. Which means we have to increase taxes to pay for increased interest rates.

A positive government surplus means we can pay off debt and not burden future generations with mountains of debt. Also we can reinvest it into infrastructure in the USA which needs some major repairs.

A side effect of having little debt is the value of our money increases because it is a safer investment.


Where does the money come from that pays down the debt?



Tariffs and various taxes on goods/people/businesses.
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Tariffs and various taxes on goods/people/businesses.


Where do the people/businesses get their money?
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Neither having a governmental surplus with a 100% tax rate nor having huge governmental debt and no credible way of paying your creditors is a good thing.
Money is just paper. Your computer is made of things like silicon.Your house is made of wood or concrete or metal. Focusing an economic policy solely on money is simply a bad idea. It has to incentivize making things like houses and computers and other things people want and need. It needs to promote people having access to food, water, and shelter. It needs to include education. It needs to include a lot of things.

It is not as simple as manipulating currency.
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I am hearing Democrats say she did a great job in the democratic debates... I just wonder what measurement they use to determine that.


She won because she stood there and smiled the whole time. It's the same reason she "won" against the republicans during the Benghazi hearing last week. As long as she's smiling, it doesn't matter what comes out of her mouth. Her cult voters only care about the fact that she's a woman and believe she can do no wrong.


I've heard this ad nauseam much like I did with Obama in 2008 (he only won because he's black!), and I just don't get it. The only evidence for this claim anyone ever points to is the number of black/female supporters for Obama/Clinton, completely ignoring that those groups are typically solid Democrat voting blocs anyway (A Republican presidential candidate hasn't won the female vote since 1988 or the black vote since almost a century ago).
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Go Rubio.
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PhantomGundam wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

I am hearing Democrats say she did a great job in the democratic debates... I just wonder what measurement they use to determine that.


She won because she stood there and smiled the whole time. It's the same reason she "won" against the republicans during the Benghazi hearing last week. As long as she's smiling, it doesn't matter what comes out of her mouth. Her cult voters only care about the fact that she's a woman and believe she can do no wrong.


I've heard this ad nauseam much like I did with Obama in 2008 (he only won because he's black!), and I just don't get it. The only evidence for this claim anyone ever points to is the number of black/female supporters for Obama/Clinton, completely ignoring that those groups are typically solid Democrat voting blocs anyway (A Republican presidential candidate hasn't won the female vote since 1988 or the black vote since almost a century ago).


You're right about the voting blocks, but there's also a significant number of people voting for her just because she's a woman and nothing else. I feel like hitting my head on a brick wall whenever I hear people say this. There are only two reasons people are voting for Hillary.

1) They vote for her party, even if it's just because they want to vote against republicans.
2) She's a woman. Did you even watch her during the debate? All she kept saying was "vote for me because I'm a woman." "I'm different from Obama because I'm a woman." "We need a woman president and that's me!"

You will never meet anyone voting for her based on her policies or her track record. It'll always be "I'm a democrat so I'm voting for her" or "I just want a woman as president."
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Trump supporter here! I think Trump, Cruz, and Carson are all great guys, but I like Trump the most.
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Considering one side always fights against women's rights, gives tax breaks to billionaires, and lacks climate change common sense, along with common sense in general, it's easy for me to ignore that side.


Voting based on party is never a good idea. You assume every republican is the same. You should be looking into which candidate you share the most views with. Pay no attention to the (D) or (R) next to their names. That's only stopping you from making an informed decision.


They all have the same core beliefs. Against gay marriage when there's no reason to. Against gender equality. Against helping the poor when we have a huge amount of money at the top. I don't completely ignore the side, I listen and read to the news all the time, honestly. I am just not willing to follow any of those people when their entire party is against my core beliefs. I listen to what the other side says, however, and I look to see which of those matches my beliefs most and who is most trustworthy.


youre a leftist liberal that's all. I don't believe in the environmentalist cult, and I'm not interested in feminazis or raising taxes. Dems have no common sense when it comes to religious liberty, second amendment, illegal immigration, etc. Donald Trump is the best.
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youre a leftist liberal that's all. I don't believe in the environmentalist cult, and I'm not interested in feminazis or raising taxes. Dems have no common sense when it comes to religious liberty, second amendment, illegal immigration, etc. Donald Trump is the best.


If you're a Trump supporter, then there's no reason for me to write this, because you've already gone off the deep end.

Environmentalist cult? You mean believing the fact that almost every scientist can agree that we are affecting our environment and we need to do something about it? I guess following science makes me a cultist.

Feminism is about equality for men and women. It isn't about "I'm a woman, so I hate men." Just like with any group of people, those are the extremists only. Kind of like how the Westboro Baptist Church is constantly telling people they're going to hell and yelling "God hates fags!" But real Christianity is about love, acceptance, and generosity.

I have no common sense when it comes to religious liberty? I want everyone to be able to express themselves freely *so long as it doesn't negatively affect other people*. Which the Christian extremists do all the time. Meanwhile your side is constantly bashing law-abiding Muslims in our country. There are actually people trying to make laws that would separate gays from us and make them have their own shopping areas and restaurants, etc.

Second amendment rights, huh? We have a ridiculously high mortality rate due to guns, and there's no reason that it has to stay that way. While Democrats are actually trying to do something about it, you guys just sit back and say "fuck off, I'm keeping my guns!" but never actually have a real argument for it. Why do you need a bunch of guns? Who is coming for you? How many enemies did you make that you need to feel like someone is going to come attack you? We want BACKGROUND CHECKS. We don't even want to come and "take your guns away" like all the hicks said Obama was going to do. 7 years later, not a single attempt to take your guns.

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youre a leftist liberal that's all. I don't believe in the environmentalist cult, and I'm not interested in feminazis or raising taxes. Dems have no common sense when it comes to religious liberty, second amendment, illegal immigration, etc. Donald Trump is the best.


If you're a Trump supporter, then there's no reason for me to write this, because you've already gone off the deep end.

Environmentalist cult? You mean believing the fact that almost every scientist can agree that we are affecting our environment and we need to do something about it? I guess following science makes me a cultist.

Feminism is about equality for men and women. It isn't about "I'm a woman, so I hate men." Just like with any group of people, those are the extremists only. Kind of like how the Westboro Baptist Church is constantly telling people they're going to hell and yelling "God hates fags!" But real Christianity is about love, acceptance, and generosity.

I have no common sense when it comes to religious liberty? I want everyone to be able to express themselves freely *so long as it doesn't negatively affect other people*. Which the Christian extremists do all the time. Meanwhile your side is constantly bashing law-abiding Muslims in our country. There are actually people trying to make laws that would separate gays from us and make them have their own shopping areas and restaurants, etc.

Second amendment rights, huh? We have a ridiculously high mortality rate due to guns, and there's no reason that it has to stay that way. While Democrats are actually trying to do something about it, you guys just sit back and say "fuck off, I'm keeping my guns!" but never actually have a real argument for it. Why do you need a bunch of guns? Who is coming for you? How many enemies did you make that you need to feel like someone is going to come attack you? We want BACKGROUND CHECKS. We don't even want to come and "take your guns away" like all the hicks said Obama was going to do. 7 years later, not a single attempt to take your guns.



interesting, lefties would say 'Christian extremists' but not Islamic extremists. When was the last a Christian or a Jew kill someone in the name of Jesus or Jehovah? Most terrorists are muslims and that's why we need our guns. we need to carry all the time. I think its a great idea to have segregation laws for muslims and homosexuals. especially in countries like south Africa and Israel, segregation is absolutely necessary. nowadays, when a Christian bake refuse to bake a gay wedding cake due to religious beliefs, he got fined over $100000, but when muslim truck drivers refuse to deliver alcohol and got fired, the court ordered the truck company to pay them over $200000. this is 'religious liberty' under democrats
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interesting, lefties would say 'Christian extremists' but not Islamic extremists. When was the last a Christian or a Jew kill someone in the name of Jesus or Jehovah? Most terrorists are muslims and that's why we need our guns. we need to carry all the time. I think its a great idea to have segregation laws for muslims and homosexuals. especially in countries like south Africa and Israel, segregation is absolutely necessary. nowadays, when a Christian bake refuse to bake a gay wedding cake due to religious beliefs, he got fined over $100000, but when muslim truck drivers refuse to deliver alcohol and got fired, the court ordered the truck company to pay them over $200000. this is 'religious liberty' under democrats


Yeah, there's no reaching people like you who put themselves on a pedestal above everyone else who wants to live differently. I don't know why I tried. People can read your posts that are just filled with ignorance and I wont even to point it out anymore. I rest my case.
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Where does the money come from that pays down the debt?



"Blessed are the young for they shall inherit the national debt." ~ Herbert Hoover

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Bantarific wrote:
Where does the money come from that pays down the debt?



"Blessed are the young for they shall inherit the national debt." ~ Herbert Hoover



That didn't answer the question.
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MichaelZ007
interesting, lefties would say 'Christian extremists' but not Islamic extremists. When was the last a Christian or a Jew kill someone in the name of Jesus or Jehovah? Most terrorists are muslims and that's why we need our guns. we need to carry all the time. I think its a great idea to have segregation laws for muslims and homosexuals. especially in countries like south Africa and Israel, segregation is absolutely necessary. nowadays, when a Christian bake refuse to bake a gay wedding cake due to religious beliefs, he got fined over $100000, but when muslim truck drivers refuse to deliver alcohol and got fired, the court ordered the truck company to pay them over $200000. this is 'religious liberty' under democrats


Yeah, there's no reaching people like you who put themselves on a pedestal above everyone else who wants to live differently. I don't know why I tried. People can read your posts that are just filled with ignorance and I wont even to point it out anymore. I rest my case.


and theres no use talking to a liberal. Donald Trump can fix all the problems. He will build a wall to stop the illegals and will deport all illegals and muslim refugees. That's just wonderful. Hes the hope for America.
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