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Tragic News: The Yakuza won't be passing out candy to the kiddies this year
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Posted 10/29/15 , edited 10/29/15

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Yakuza aren't all bad. They serve their people in their own ways and I do remember them being first responders after some natural disasters. They helped people more quickly and effectively than the government organizations and even donated food and water. The large, powerful, established yakuza groups also deter other criminals from setting up base in their territory so they can actually deter crime and protect neighborhoods. Think Whitebeard from One Piece. Not the best comparison but the only one I can come up with in my current tipsy state.

There is a code that usually keeps them in place but, like the government, there are some that are awful. If you don't call them gangsters and you only look at what they do, they aren't so different from government officials.

At least they're better than those brutal Chinese Triads and those warlike Mexican crime syndicates and stupid American gangs.


If you'd share your reading list on the Yakuza I'd appreciate it. I don't know much about them, really.

Edit: Also, I get where you're coming from on the whole "Westphalian states are like gangs" thing, but it lends itself to AnCap rhetoric too much (I reject the NAP outright) and has some serious logical holes I'd gladly go over with you if you'd like.

Edit 2: Actually, I do have some secondhand experience with the Yakuza, and while they're relatively xenophobic from what I've heard they're also able to moderate that in response to some code of ethics I don't yet understand. Really, it's an interesting new area for me.
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Posted 10/29/15
The Yakuza are good people. Haven't you guys watched Nisekoi?

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Apparently, they have standards. Wish I could say the same for the US and South America.


You'd be surprised. The Yakuza are viewed as kinda like the Robin Hoods of japan. Basically if you don't get in their way they can be pretty nice. They even did their own review on the Yakuza 3 game.
Posted 10/29/15
I really don't understand the Yakuza at all.
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BlueOni wrote:


Morbidhanson wrote:

Yakuza aren't all bad. They serve their people in their own ways and I do remember them being first responders after some natural disasters. They helped people more quickly and effectively than the government organizations and even donated food and water. The large, powerful, established yakuza groups also deter other criminals from setting up base in their territory so they can actually deter crime and protect neighborhoods. Think Whitebeard from One Piece. Not the best comparison but the only one I can come up with in my current tipsy state.

There is a code that usually keeps them in place but, like the government, there are some that are awful. If you don't call them gangsters and you only look at what they do, they aren't so different from government officials.

At least they're better than those brutal Chinese Triads and those warlike Mexican crime syndicates and stupid American gangs.


If you'd share your reading list on the Yakuza I'd appreciate it. I don't know much about them, really.

Edit: Also, I get where you're coming from on the whole "Westphalian states are like gangs" thing, but it lends itself to AnCap rhetoric too much (I reject the NAP outright) and has some serious logical holes I'd gladly go over with you if you'd like.

Edit 2: Actually, I do have some secondhand experience with the Yakuza, and while they're relatively xenophobic from what I've heard they're also able to moderate that in response to some code of ethics I don't yet understand. Really, it's an interesting new area for me.


I'm not saying states/governments are like gangsters but that if you don't call them states/governments or gangsters, their behaviors, objectively, don't ultimately seem all that different. It's neither good nor bad, it is what it is. They operate on the same principle, yet we always look upon one more favorably than another.

Japanese in general seem xenophobic. Things seem to be a little better now, but maybe that's just because I look like one of them.
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Posted 10/30/15 , edited 10/30/15
Wont be sending my daughter round then
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The yakuza do have some honor, that's their whole stihick. They're brutal, but more gracious and loyal to one another than most other crime syndicates, even as they are crime syndicates nonetheless. Their ways are pretty fascinating.
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