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So, I'm mildly ashamed to say that I've never sat down and actually watched a Macross series. Robotech, yes, many years ago. I even read the Robotech novels. I guess that fulfilled my transforming plane-robot needs since I never really felt the need to look at Macross. But now, I see there's a new series coming soon, and I figured, maybe now's the time to see what's out there.

The problem is that there's so much stuff, I don't know what makes sense to track down. I mean, look at this list! Well over 100 episodes of various series and OVAs, many of which seem to be alternate versions of prior series. But if anyone knows what's important in there, I bet they're on this forum. Which series/OVAs/whatever should I take a look at, if I want to get a good feel for the world and characters, without spending the next six months of my life watching a gazillion alternate versions?
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I'm currently watching though Macross myself actually and a friend reccomended me this order:

Macross: Do You Remember Love is what I'd reccomend first. A great retelling of the orignal Macross all new hand drawn animation. While the story is roughly the same, all the events are completely different. Great intro to the world of Macross. I've also watched the orignal Super Dimensional Fortress Macross and enjoyed it but it's optional at that point.

Macross Plus I'd reccomend the OVA over the movie. I've watched both but I found the OVA to be better paced and have more action compared to the movie. I'd reccomend checking out the movie eventually even if it the majority of it is recycled fottage from Plus. But it has some new scenes and a better ending.

Macross 7 I haven't watched yet but am told it's easily the weakest in the franchise and if you don't like it don't be afraid to skip it. Watch the series but skip the movies.

Macross Zero is a prequal taking place a year before the orignal Macross but is optional really. Only really required if you want to get a few refrences from Macross Frointer.

As for Frointer the movies are reccommended then the series. The movies are differnet in terms of story and events from the series so both would be worth checking out.

Hope this helped.
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You can always watch the movie alternate version.
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Do what I do: Watch Macross II and then wonder why so many people hate it.

EDIT to add that I come from a similar background: I got into Robotech through the novels, though I have dim memories of the show as a kid.
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madeulook123 wrote:

I'm currently watching though Macross myself actually and a friend reccomended me this order:

Macross: Do You Remember Love is what I'd reccomend first. A great retelling of the orignal Macross all new hand drawn animation. While the story is roughly the same, all the events are completely different. Great intro to the world of Macross. I've also watched the orignal Super Dimensional Fortress Macross and enjoyed it but it's optional at that point.

Macross Plus I'd reccomend the OVA over the movie. I've watched both but I found the OVA to be better paced and have more action compared to the movie. I'd reccomend checking out the movie eventually even if it the majority of it is recycled fottage from Plus. But it has some new scenes and a better ending.

Macross 7 I haven't watched yet but am told it's easily the weakest in the franchise and if you don't like it don't be afraid to skip it. Watch the series but skip the movies.

Macross Zero is a prequal taking place a year before the orignal Macross but is optional really. Only really required if you want to get a few refrences from Macross Frointer.

As for Frointer the movies are reccommended then the series. The movies are differnet in terms of story and events from the series so both would be worth checking out.

Hope this helped.


While I cringe at anyone stating Super Dimension Fortress Macross being "optional" (because I believe its a must see for every anime fan), in this instance, he is not wrong. If time is limited I'd do Macross Plus then Frontier. If you have the time watch SDF Macross, THEN Do You Remember Love movie, then the rest of the list IMO.
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ineffablebob wrote:

So, I'm mildly ashamed to say that I've never sat down and actually watched a Macross series. Robotech, yes, many years ago. I even read the Robotech novels. I guess that fulfilled my transforming plane-robot needs since I never really felt the need to look at Macross. But now, I see there's a new series coming soon, and I figured, maybe now's the time to see what's out there.

The problem is that there's so much stuff, I don't know what makes sense to track down. I mean, look at this list! Well over 100 episodes of various series and OVAs, many of which seem to be alternate versions of prior series. But if anyone knows what's important in there, I bet they're on this forum. Which series/OVAs/whatever should I take a look at, if I want to get a good feel for the world and characters, without spending the next six months of my life watching a gazillion alternate versions?


I am an a very fanatic macross fan, so some disdain for HG and Robotech may come through, ok?

As you are familiar with RoBLOWtech the first season of that Is Macross: SDF, as such you won't need to re-watch this

I would start with:

Macross Do you Remeber Love (Ai Oboete Imasu ka). [Movie]

Then

Macross Zero [OVA]

Followed by

Macross Plus [OVA]

Macross 7 (for now skip the OVAs with going back to later)

Macross Frontier [TV Series, then watch the two movies]

If you need to know the dark places to watch this due to the [email protected]@stards at Harmony Gold keeping Macross from the US, send me private mail and I will send you the places




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I am an a very fanatic macross fan, so some disdain for HG and Robotech may come through, ok?


As in, apart from the original series, ignore ANYTHING with "Robotech" on the name for being shameless claim-jumping frauds.


madeulook123 wrote:
Macross: Do You Remember Love is what I'd reccomend first. A great retelling of the orignal Macross all new hand drawn animation. While the story is roughly the same, all the events are completely different. Great intro to the world of Macross. I've also watched the orignal Super Dimensional Fortress Macross and enjoyed it but it's optional at that point.


Macross: Do You Remember Love is a nice recap of Essential Macross 101, even with the obvious liberties--
In the canon, the DYRL movie is supposed to have been the "Lin Minmei Story" that was made on the Macross ship as morale propaganda (so Lin is already a star when the movie opens, and there's more pilot chest-beating), but it's also a quick recap of the core events of the first two-thirds of the series in two hours.
After peace breaks out in the TV series, there's a lonnnnng slog in the third arc, where they try to rebuild the planet, Lin's career is on the wane, and politically frustrated rebel Zentraedi try to shake things up again--all of which feels painfully redundant and after the fact--and the original Macross series has a little more personal interest in the characters in the TV episodes, but it's a question of how much you're willing to watch.
The upside of watching the original Japanese or the ADV dub episodes, of course, is that many find Minmei much less annoying in the original than "Minmay" was in the 80's series, and she also happens to know more than two songs.

Macross Plus is off-canon, and Macross 7 is considered a bit of a campy joke (some references to core Macross canon, but told with a new would-be singing rebel you will want to punch within two episodes), and Frontier....never quite got into, sorry.
Zero was just kind of out there as a limited "art" series, but doesn't tell you much about Roy Fokker's past that you couldn't grasp already.
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eightcar wrote:
I am an a very fanatic macross fan, so some disdain for HG and Robotech may come through, ok?


As in, apart from the original series, ignore ANYTHING with "Robotech" on the name for being shameless claim-jumping frauds.



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Lots of good info here, thanks folks!
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Ejanss wrote:
In the canon, the DYRL movie is supposed to have been the "Lin Minmei Story" that was made on the Macross ship as morale propaganda (so Lin is already a star when the movie opens, and there's more pilot chest-beating), but it's also a quick recap of the core events of the first two-thirds of the series in two hours.


Nope, definitely not a movie they made on the Macross ship as they show the final battle with the Zentradi over Earth - if they were able to predict the key elements of the battle in advance to script a movie, I would be surprised that they weren't able to take greater advantage of them.

"Do you remember love?" was explained in Macross 7 as a film made after the battle by the survivors.
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It looks like there aren't many fans of Macross 7 in the comments above.

It is true that it appears to have been aimed at a younger audience but it has arguably the best soundtrack of any of the series (a side effect of the series focusing on the musical theme more than the military one). The main musical theme was rock, as that was the genre of the protagonist's band, with 12 songs included in the main series and a further 5 songs in the Dynamite 7 OVA. Other songs heard from time to time came from alternative bands in the Macross 7 universe and the main characters also did a version of "Do you remember love?"
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MidoriNoTora wrote:

It looks like there aren't many fans of Macross 7 in the comments above.

It is true that it appears to have been aimed at a younger audience but it has arguably the best soundtrack of any of the series (a side effect of the series focusing on the musical theme more than the military one). The main musical theme was rock, as that was the genre of the protagonist's band, with 12 songs included in the main series and a further 5 songs in the Dynamite 7 OVA. Other songs heard from time to time came from alternative bands in the Macross 7 universe and the main characters also did a version of "Do you remember love?"


Yes, but Basara was just such a stuck-up little poseur irritant, the whole show came off as "What if Minmei had been replaced with U2's Bono?"

(Maybe he's supposed to be the overambitious "Our garage band's going to change the face of music with our message!" first-timer who gets too artistically pretentious about his own little struggling gigs--especially in Japan--but you just never wanted to give the heroes of the other Macross series a violent wedgie that badly.)
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I've started working through some of the recommendations. Got through the original series in refresher mode, since I'd seen the Robotech version, looking up the differences.

Watched and enjoyed the OVAs for Macross Plus. It's short, but they pack quite a bit into those four episodes.

Then I started in on Macross 7, but after about 10 episodes I don't think I can stomach any more. I've watched a lot of cheesy shows in my time, but this one just does nothing for me. It feels like someone looked at the original series and said, "hey, they used music to overcome fighting, we should do that too" but forgot to include any reasoning behind it. And then decided "super musician-pilot-bike rider-street fighter with no social skills" and "spoiled teenage girl being marketed to older men by her mother" made for good central characters. Maybe it gets better later, but I'm not gonna wade through the chuff to find out.

Hoping Zero and Frontier are more like the original series and/or Plus.
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