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Rather than empathy, I run situations and choices through my moral system to determine right and wrong.
Based on my methodology, there's nothing wrong with what these parents did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1df_i26wh-w
Why? They disowned their son... Well, while that is an assholeish thing to do is it wrong? His free will wasn't violated and he was an adult not a child... in fact, since I believe those who live off of another ones possessions are to be bound to it or be cut off from it, technically the child was in the wrong for coming out to his parents knowing they disproved of it? Why? because the house belongs to them.

But that brings up the moral issue? How long are your parents obligated to care for you, and at what point (if any) are your parents required to love you?
It's absurd to say they have zero moral requirement, since to have a child is a choice they made. However, to say that your parents have to always care for you would mean it's wrong to kick a 30 yr old lazy douche from his parents home. So at what age should your parents not have care for you anymore. I'd go with 18 since you'd be capable of leaving the house and holding a job legally.
Keep in mind, I'm only talking about the moral requirement to feed, raise, and house children.... love is a totally different issue.

Is there a point where your parents no longer have to love you to be moral people? Is it a decision you make? Like if you become a serial killer, are your parents no longer morally obligated to love you then? Well... I say never... because no parent is over morally required to actually love thier children.
In fact, that would be moral fascism and violate the free will and individuality of the parents. The only requirement a parent has to be moral is to feed, clothe, care for, and not abuse thier kids. Nobody... I mean absolutely nobody is ever morally obligated to EVER experiance love towards anyone or anything. Love is 100% optional and completely unnessasary in any situation. There is not one situation in all of existence where one is required to love another...
The only exception is when they tell you they love you. Because then they're lying.

So... basically, I believe that it's okay for your parents to not love you as long as they tell you that they dont' love you.... That sounds fucked up, but that's the conclusion based on my ethical system.
Posted 11/4/15
You're assuming love is an actual thing.
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obligated?..
atleast get a bit away to don't get caught up in the hatred or disliking atleast and maybe improve to next "meeting"..

Even though many has their ways of "loving"/caring.. even if its bad things or even death..
Posted 11/4/15
Of course they're obligated to make love to you!


Wait, that didn't come out right...
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I mean of course your parents have to love you..unless they gave you away..but in that case you are probably with a family who loves you.

Im a really cool human being and its even cooler because my parents are cool human beings so they made me to be like the ultimate cool cool human. But yeah they are morally obligated to love you. But i think most parents CHOOSE to love you.

Just my two cents. -ELC
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haikinka wrote:

You're assuming love is an actual thing.


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"technically the child was in the wrong for coming out to his parents knowing they disproved of it? Why? because the house belongs to them."



I don't really enjoy your mindset. From the few threads I have read from you...

A love of a parent is for forever. It shouldn't have a limit. The care of a parent is for forever, it shouldn't have a limit.

If you care for your child, you will teach him/her how to survive the real world. Telling them to go live by themselves and get a job is not "uncaring". You do it so they can grow as people but you are there to give them a push to start and to give them a hand if they fall.


Needless to say, I don't agree with you that love is "completely unnecessary" but I will leave it at that and keep the rest to myself.

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Of course they're obligated to make love to you!


Wait, that didn't come out right...


onii chan please
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yuummmmy wrote: Needless to say, I don't agree with you that love is "completely unnecessary" but I will leave it at that and keep the rest to myself.
depends on what love and what the "love" would do to eachother.
what other thinks is hatred some maybe feel its love etc.
but yes like getting a job is to be worried about health and find something and move "on" -_-

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the words "obligation" and "love" don`t go together. if someone (in this case parents) feels obligated to love you then in my opinion is not real love, not coming from their real emotion. nobody is obligated to feel something they don`t. it seems fake to me, this love out of obligation. don`t know if i`m explaining this right
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I don't think that they're morally obligated to love you at all. However, I feel that they're obligated to at least pretend that they do, otherwise they're a pair of pricks.
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I got free Gas Card (In other word my parents are paying for my gas :p), Also got another Credit Card that I can buy the whole world (Yes, Yes Bill Gate is my Father!!) I'm living like Marcus Octavius so therefore I'm Loved!

-sighs- yes I lied.. Hey, Hey We all can dream right?...Right?
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SetsunaPluto wrote:

the words "obligation" and "love" don`t go together. if someone (in this case parents) feels obligated to love you then in my opinion is not real love, not coming from their real emotion. nobody is obligated to feel something they don`t. it seems fake to me, this love out of obligation. don`t know if i`m explaining this right


You actually said what I really wanted to say, completely agree!




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yuummmmy wrote: Needless to say, I don't agree with you that love is "completely unnecessary" but I will leave it at that and keep the rest to myself.
depends on what love and what the "love" would do to eachother.
what other thinks is hatred some maybe feel its love etc.
but yes like getting a job is to be worried about health and find something and move "on" -_-



Love is not a hard concept for me to understand. I love people, I love animals, I love nature and I believe that loving others does good to our souls. I also believe that love cures everything.

There are many different kinds of love but I've been told by my own mom that the love of a mother is unconditional (no conditions, no limits) and that she would put her hands on fire for me. When my sister went to jail she did everything to get her out no matter if she deserved it. She gave her a second opportunity.

She had children and took care of them as best as she could because she knew it was her responsibility but also because she felt it in her heart.

I see my mother and I feel full of love so I want to do the same in the future and I believe her words.

"what other thinks is hatred some maybe feel its love"

Like disowning a child for being being sincere and coming out to their parents?

Tough love is part of being a parent and it is applicable when the kid does something that harms them and you punish them so they can better themselves, like my mom refused to help my sister with school and money in general because she was in drugs. Disowning a kid for being gay is not tough love, it's simply not accepting the kid for whom he/she really is and putting conditions on your "love" for them.
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silversongwriter wrote:
Why? They disowned their son... Well, while that is an assholeish thing to do is it wrong? His free will wasn't violated and he was an adult not a child... in fact, since I believe those who live off of another ones possessions are to be bound to it or be cut off from it, technically the child was in the wrong for coming out to his parents knowing they disproved of it? Why? because the house belongs to them.


If I ever have kids and I find out they have shitty music taste, I'm kicking them out of the house and disowning them. It's not wrong, you're right. My house my rules. My kids should know better than to like Justin Beiber and One Direction. Nothing fucked up here at all.
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If they don't love you, they don't deserve to be parents.
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