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What? Weed is wayyyy easier to get, at least where I live, anyways, most people around here/that I've met started out with weed.


start out with? there's a hierarchy? what's the top dog then?
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^ well, some are in fact worse then others.

i mean compare the health ramifications from xanax to Krokodil
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Caffeine is the gateway drug.
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Nah. Most people I see that are addicted to nicotine are happily dying of cancer.
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Sogno- wrote:


TrickedMJ wrote:

What? Weed is wayyyy easier to get, at least where I live, anyways, most people around here/that I've met started out with weed.


start out with? there's a hierarchy? what's the top dog then?



Under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, illegal drugs are placed into one of 3 classes - A, B or C. This is broadly based on the harms they cause either to the user or to society when they are misused.

The class into which a drug is placed affects the maximum penalty for an offence involving the drug. For example, Class A drugs attract the most severe penalty as they are considered likely to cause the most serious harm. Drugs controlled under the Misuse of Drugs Act are illegal to have, produce, give away or sell.

• Class A drugs include: heroin (diamorphine), cocaine (including crack), methadone, ecstasy (MDMA), LSD, and magic mushrooms.

• Class B includes: amphetamines, barbiturates, codeine, cannabis, cathinones (including mephedrone) and synthetic cannabinoids.

• Class C includes: benzodiazepines (tranquilisers), GHB/GBL, ketamine, anabolic steroids and benzylpiperazines (BZP).
Posted 11/25/15
No, that's anime.
Posted 11/25/15
Uhm.. No.
Posted 11/25/15 , edited 11/26/15
i smoke like a pack a day since about a month or two as a way to cool down. its like doctor orders isnt that messed up . what do you people do to just mellow out

probably going to quit though in a few days aint mellowing me out doc

i smoke weed though i like weed

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I may have one cigarette every few months, and that's only if I'm out socializing with others. For me, it's about the taste of tobacco more than it is about the feeling of nicotine. Same thing goes for alcohol; I love the taste of alcohol, but I'm effectively neutral on the effects of being buzzed/drunk.
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I tried both cigarettes and weed, didn't like either one. The later gave me a disgusting taste in my mouth while the later gave me a headache. I do drink from time to time (I'm more into cocktail drinks than beer) but I never became addicted to it.
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Posted 11/26/15
I smoke Cigarettes but have yet to even touch weed. If it were legal in my state though....
Posted 11/28/15
No, just being around drug users and if your friends or family use. I know lots of smokers that don't drink or smoke weed, usu BC they have mandatory drug tests at their jobs.
Posted 11/28/15
Is candy the real gateway drug? I mean, it all starts with candy. I say that, not just because all kids start out with candy, but also because candy consumption in heroin addicts has been proven to be pretty much like that of a child in a candy store with an endless supply of allowance.

The answer is no. People don't gradually increase their drug abuse, from candy to nicotine, and weed to heroin. You're either inclined to consume stimulants, or you aren't. Some, stronger stimulants than others. It really depends on how little of a shit you give, due to how much of a shit life has treated you.

I'm an addict, and I'm fairly sure it's not because I started out by eating buggers when I was 3, or because I got candy when I was 6, or because, oh mama, I used a cotton swab in my ear.

Or, no, wait. Now that I think about it, the real gateway drug is probably cotton swabs.
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Ha no.
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No. Although using drugs will probably make you more open-minded about drug use and, thus, perhaps more likely to try other drugs, I don't think smoking CAUSES you to do harder drugs. You don't crave hard drugs just because you smoke. You simply understand that drugs won't kill you instantly like your elementary school teachers said, so you get curious as you hear about others' positive experiences.

"Gateway drug" is kind of a stupid term for it. It's like calling steak a "gateway meat" because some monk who ate meat for the first time enjoyed it and now wonders what other wonderful meats are out there to eat. You've merely experienced something good you haven't experienced before, so you don't demonize other drugs now that you've tried one. If the steak was raw and rotten and the monk got food poisoning from it, he'd probably remain vegan. People who have never used drugs literally can't understand drug use.

I daresay all positive drug experiences can be labeled as coming from a "gateway drug" of some sort. Bad experiences, like drinking disgusting beer, throwing up from smoke inhalation, freaking out on your first shroom trip from having too much certainly don't open people's minds about drugs. The experience usually needs to be a positive one. That's the most likely way someone will continue use or experiment with something new that sounds good.

I've done pretty much every drug you've heard of, dozens of different substances, including stupid things like meth, bunches of synthetic hallucinogens, datura, and nutmeg. As long as I don't need to inject it, I've probably done it. They don't lead you to one another, the person's openness to new experiences after a positive experience does.

I don't recommend habitual drug use, and can't bring myself to say positive things about some of the harder substances, having weighed the costs and benefits, but people seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the way drug use works. It's not all good but it certainly isn't all bad.
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