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This sort of behavior should not be tolerated at one of the most prestigious schools in the world. Sure, it's just a party, but they've made it very much a school isssue as well. I'm surprised so many of you think it's acceptable.

If it was just a house party with friends, do what you please. But frats, though many don't like them, need to maintain a respectable front for the sake of the school. This is a blatantly disrespectful and intentional action that has no place at a school. Don't do it in the name of a frat if you want to do this sort of thing.

If I was the dean, I'd be expelling those directly involved and everyone else gets a suspension for a quarter/semester. It doesn't take a lot of thought to realize you shouldn't be posting 'whites only' signs at a prestigious institution and having a party based on it. To turn a blind eye and not punish in this situation would mean the school allows it. Unacceptable. If you're in Yale, I, as dean, would expect behavior out of you appropriate for an educated and respectable person when you are acting in the name of the school.

Going to school is like going to work. Act accordingly and don't mix it with your personal life too comfortably.
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Why would non-white girls want to even go to the party if the Frats Boys are racists? I know I wouldn't. Sure, they're dicks, but it's their rules. I wouldn't want to hang around somewhere I wasn't wanted anyway.
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I never joined a fraternity, but knew a number of fraternity members and did occasionally go to their parties. Much like most parties in college - there was a lot of drinking and, frankly, I didn't always enjoy it. That said, accusations and assumptions of "rape" at fraternities is alarmism at best and outright bigotry at worst. Like any other club or organization, there are going to be skeezy frats and there are going to be great, upstanding frats. It all depends on the people involved.

Back to the topic at hand - it was a foolish thing to do, but is it any worse than a black only fraternity only allowing black students to attend their parties? Or a Latino fraternity only allowing Latino students to attend their party? In each case, I think it's foolish and exclusionary, but it's their party. They can do what they want. I wouldn't do it, but it's their ridiculous party and in an internet age that we have now - everyone will know about it and, therefore, can make decisions about future events at the fraternity based on these activities.

Relatedly - there are currently doubts this event even happened...it's currently a lot of "he said / she said." So - there's that.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/05/did-yale-s-whites-only-party-really-happen.html
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I can honestly say that this kind of stuff happens a lot with typical fraternity functions, more so than you think. I'm an alumni of Delta Upsilon. and a chapter in Wisconsin at UWMadison was put on suspension/probation because of such things. Two guys were yelling racial slurs and chucking glass at two black female students. My fraternity would never do anything of the such I know that, but there have been instances with other chapters other than Madison before.
Posted 11/12/15

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This sort of behavior should not be tolerated at one of the most prestigious schools in the world. Sure, it's just a party, but they've made it very much a school isssue as well. I'm surprised so many of you think it's acceptable.

If it was just a house party with friends, do what you please. But frats, though many don't like them, need to maintain a respectable front for the sake of the school. This is a blatantly disrespectful and intentional action that has no place at a school. Don't do it in the name of a frat if you want to do this sort of thing.

If I was the dean, I'd be expelling those directly involved and everyone else gets a suspension for a quarter/semester. It doesn't take a lot of thought to realize you shouldn't be posting 'whites only' signs at a prestigious institution and having a party based on it. To turn a blind eye and not punish in this situation would mean the school allows it. Unacceptable. If you're in Yale, I, as dean, would expect behavior out of you appropriate for an educated and respectable person when you are acting in the name of the school.

Going to school is like going to work. Act accordingly and don't mix it with your personal life too comfortably.


Good...Good...You get a cookie.
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Plot twist: The dean has no power because the dad's have something on him
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Oh, I'm sure there are some strings being pulled behind the stage. I don't know what the current dean would do if this story is true, but this is what I'd do.
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I never joined a fraternity, but knew a number of fraternity members and did occasionally go to their parties. Much like most parties in college - there was a lot of drinking and, frankly, I didn't always enjoy it. That said, accusations and assumptions of "rape" at fraternities is alarmism at best and outright bigotry at worst. Like any other club or organization, there are going to be skeezy frats and there are going to be great, upstanding frats. It all depends on the people involved.

Back to the topic at hand - it was a foolish thing to do, but is it any worse than a black only fraternity only allowing black students to attend their parties? Or a Latino fraternity only allowing Latino students to attend their party? In each case, I think it's foolish and exclusionary, but it's their party. They can do what they want. I wouldn't do it, but it's their ridiculous party and in an internet age that we have now - everyone will know about it and, therefore, can make decisions about future events at the fraternity based on these activities.

Relatedly - there are currently doubts this event even happened...it's currently a lot of "he said / she said." So - there's that.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/05/did-yale-s-whites-only-party-really-happen.html


Depends. It's a matter of prior offenses commit by the dirty whites. It's the same reason why I frown upon Japanese Nationalists.
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Depends. It's a matter of prior offenses commit by the dirty whites. It's the same reason why I frown upon Japanese Nationalists.

I hate stories like this for the main reason that - in the end, we can't really prove it one way or the other. Each side will have witnesses saying one thing and, in the end, nothing useful comes from this. All that happens is people get angry and, sadly, it might even be misplaced anger! We don't know.

I feel like there's a distinct possibility when it's all said and done, we're going to find out this wasn't a "White Chicks Only" party and more a "Bouncers Think You're Hot" party. As there was a black pledge who was working the door who talked to the girl who made the claim and said pretty much that. There were also, according to the article I linked before, witnesses who said that the girl in question when she wasn't let into the party made a big stink screaming at the bouncers, "Oh, is it because I'm black?" I have a feeling that is the most reasonable scenario of what happened. It's still super lame...but not actually racism, just dudes being tools...
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mdmrn wrote:

I never joined a fraternity, but knew a number of fraternity members and did occasionally go to their parties. Much like most parties in college - there was a lot of drinking and, frankly, I didn't always enjoy it. That said, accusations and assumptions of "rape" at fraternities is alarmism at best and outright bigotry at worst. Like any other club or organization, there are going to be skeezy frats and there are going to be great, upstanding frats. It all depends on the people involved.

Back to the topic at hand - it was a foolish thing to do, but is it any worse than a black only fraternity only allowing black students to attend their parties? Or a Latino fraternity only allowing Latino students to attend their party? In each case, I think it's foolish and exclusionary, but it's their party. They can do what they want. I wouldn't do it, but it's their ridiculous party and in an internet age that we have now - everyone will know about it and, therefore, can make decisions about future events at the fraternity based on these activities.

Relatedly - there are currently doubts this event even happened...it's currently a lot of "he said / she said." So - there's that.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/05/did-yale-s-whites-only-party-really-happen.html


Depends. It's a matter of prior offenses commit by the dirty whites. It's the same reason why I frown upon Japanese Nationalists.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgISWb1lDu8

lets see.... what other things have frats made me face palm over.....
oh yeah, holding a i still like girls press conference, after butt chugging almost killed him.

Warning spoiler contains slightly scary image.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keTbsSfMOdI
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mdmrn wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:



Depends. It's a matter of prior offenses commit by the dirty whites. It's the same reason why I frown upon Japanese Nationalists.

I hate stories like this for the main reason that - in the end, we can't really prove it one way or the other. Each side will have witnesses saying one thing and, in the end, nothing useful comes from this. All that happens is people get angry and, sadly, it might even be misplaced anger! We don't know.

I feel like there's a distinct possibility when it's all said and done, we're going to find out this wasn't a "White Chicks Only" party and more a "Bouncers Think You're Hot" party. As there was a black pledge who was working the door who talked to the girl who made the claim and said pretty much that. There were also, according to the article I linked before, witnesses who said that the girl in question when she wasn't let into the party made a big stink screaming at the bouncers, "Oh, is it because I'm black?" I have a feeling that is the most reasonable scenario of what happened. It's still super lame...but not actually racism, just dudes being tools...


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Posted 11/12/15 , edited 11/12/15

mdmrn wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:



Depends. It's a matter of prior offenses commit by the dirty whites. It's the same reason why I frown upon Japanese Nationalists.

I hate stories like this for the main reason that - in the end, we can't really prove it one way or the other. Each side will have witnesses saying one thing and, in the end, nothing useful comes from this. All that happens is people get angry and, sadly, it might even be misplaced anger! We don't know.

I feel like there's a distinct possibility when it's all said and done, we're going to find out this wasn't a "White Chicks Only" party and more a "Bouncers Think You're Hot" party. As there was a black pledge who was working the door who talked to the girl who made the claim and said pretty much that. There were also, according to the article I linked before, witnesses who said that the girl in question when she wasn't let into the party made a big stink screaming at the bouncers, "Oh, is it because I'm black?" I have a feeling that is the most reasonable scenario of what happened. It's still super lame...but not actually racism, just dudes being tools...


It reminds me of this cartoon.

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The most important question is: Did this party involve a goat?
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The most important question is: Did this party involve a goat?


Bravo! You see, even if it was true, the controversial element will simply drive it away from the truth because the nutters will run away with it and it will end up as nothing but a conspiracy.
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doesn't sound like the kind of party i would want to go to
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