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Posted 11/13/15 , edited 11/13/15
It's worse if you buy anime figures, and get a recommendation for pony toys.

lol
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U guys are idiots you want to disable all trackers and hide your presence online so you don't get this kind of BS.

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Amazon and all major commercial sights run algorithms that increase the price for items you most view. For example if you view anime boxsets on amazon then go back to it and maybe again it will raise the price by about 5% maybe more. If you don't believe me load amazon spend 3 days clicking on cowboy bebop boxset and watch its price increase.

Thank me later.
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Posted 11/14/15
epic fail Amazon, epic fail

When I get emails from them though the anime they recommend is genuinely anime.
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Posted 11/14/15

element42 wrote:

U guys are idiots you want to disable all trackers and hide your presence online so you don't get this kind of BS.

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Amazon and all major commercial sights run algorithms that increase the price for items you most view. For example if you view anime boxsets on amazon then go back to it and maybe again it will raise the price by about 5% maybe more. If you don't believe me load amazon spend 3 days clicking on cowboy bebop boxset and watch its price increase.

Thank me later.


I'd feel more like an idiot if you typed "you" not "U". There is something about not believing bullshit that comes from someone that can't type that word out.

Don't know why, but it always works for me.
Posted 11/14/15
That's funny
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eclair-lumiere wrote:

epic fail Amazon, epic fail

When I get emails from them though the anime they recommend is genuinely anime.


I guess Amazon UK does a much better job than Amazon Canada lol
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Posted 11/14/15
So if someone watches Gen Urobuchi's work it'll recommend Mickey Mouse Clubhouse to them? Will watching the entirety of Rin: Daughters of Mnemosyne lead to Amazon telling you to go watch Sesame Street?

Gee, I don't see anything wrong there. Sounds like a fool-proof system to me.
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Posted 11/15/15

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element42 wrote:

U guys are idiots you want to disable all trackers and hide your presence online so you don't get this kind of BS.

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Amazon and all major commercial sights run algorithms that increase the price for items you most view. For example if you view anime boxsets on amazon then go back to it and maybe again it will raise the price by about 5% maybe more. If you don't believe me load amazon spend 3 days clicking on cowboy bebop boxset and watch its price increase.

Thank me later.


I'd feel more like an idiot if you typed "you" not "U". There is something about not believing bullshit that comes from someone that can't type that word out.

Don't know why, but it always works for me.


What's your problem, its an internet forum not university finals. And FYI its not bullshit, try it out if you want to. I was merely attempting to enlighten some people who didn't know about this kind of information. If you want websites to track your browsing and spam you offers and recommendation and bump the prices for your most viewed items then that is fine if you want that. But to me its idiotic not to stop them.
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element42 wrote:

U guys are idiots you want to disable all trackers and hide your presence online so you don't get this kind of BS.

Ublock origin
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Amazon and all major commercial sights run algorithms that increase the price for items you most view. For example if you view anime boxsets on amazon then go back to it and maybe again it will raise the price by about 5% maybe more. If you don't believe me load amazon spend 3 days clicking on cowboy bebop boxset and watch its price increase.

Thank me later.


Let's say this is true (I don't know). If the price rises, and you're still willing to buy it, then from an economic perspective, amazon was pricing the product too low in the first place. It's not entirely different from haggling, where two agents feel each other out to see how low seller might be willing to go, how high the buyer would accept. I see no problems here. In a digital age, this could be a way of feeling each other out on a grand scale to determine optimal price points. I see no problems here.

And, similarly, in the old days, careful shoppers would be careful to go to great lengths to conceal their hand to give as much of an advantage as possible -- this would be comparable to you. Other shoppers -- me -- realize that time and stress are valuable commodities, and price hike of a few bucks is not enough to validate the effort of doing research, carefully tracking search history, looking up alternate seller's prices, etc. If the price is worth it, we pay, and if not, we don't.

But that's if what you're saying actually occurs. Although I've no data, here's some thoughts off the top of my head on why I think your info might be bullshit.

Your claim is that frequent clicks on an item result in a raised price for that item, as it indicates the item is desired. This makes sense. However, one must also realize that these frequent clicks result because the person clicking has not purchased the item. This means that they have come to the conclusion that either:

1) The item is not worth the price.
or
2) They don't have the money.

I claim that a rise in price will not, generally, fix either of those problems, thus resulting in a purchase. Why would a price rise make someone that didn't buy an item before want to buy it?

There are exceptions to this of course -- when something goes out of print, for instance, there is usually a large rise due to rarity, but as far as I understand it, this is not your claim. You seem to be saying that this occurs with all goods. And if that is the case, then frankly, as an economic model, I'd say Amazon would be using a failed algorithm if this is what is happening. I doubt it, however.

As someone who has kept items on a wish list for sometimes years, I've seen prices rise and fall, sometimes quite high, sometimes much lower than when I first put it in. This had (seemingly, at least) no correlation with number of clicks. So--first impressions--I think you're wrong. Even with your "Cowboy Bebop Test" I'm not sure it has any proper controls, and I'd be hesitant to attach number of clicks clicks with any changes in price. Regardless though, even if you're right, if the price changes drastically due to these algorithms, then I won't be buying the item, and if it makes a minuscule change, then it is probably still within my acceptable bartering range. So either way, for me, going through the trouble of constantly cleaning my computer of cookies, history, downloading programs--it's not worth my time and I have better things to do with my life. So, without any hard data, without any particular evidence for or against your claims--I don't care. It's fun to think about, though.
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Probably. I've never had an issue with their recommendations. They always recommend stuff I would actually want. Although I have had them send me things in the wrong packaging. Ordered some Kuroshitsuji headphones, they were in a Vocaloid box. But whatever...
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element42 wrote:
What's your problem, its an internet forum not university finals. And FYI its not bullshit, try it out if you want to. I was merely attempting to enlighten some people who didn't know about this kind of information. If you want websites to track your browsing and spam you offers and recommendation and bump the prices for your most viewed items then that is fine if you want that. But to me its idiotic not to stop them.


I really hate it when people who type YOU as U call me an idiot.

Anyway, I'm going to run your theory with a random anime, add it to my cart even and remove it for a couple days in a row and see what happens even using screenshots.
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Posted 11/15/15

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element42 wrote:
What's your problem, its an internet forum not university finals. And FYI its not bullshit, try it out if you want to. I was merely attempting to enlighten some people who didn't know about this kind of information. If you want websites to track your browsing and spam you offers and recommendation and bump the prices for your most viewed items then that is fine if you want that. But to me its idiotic not to stop them.


I really hate it when people who type YOU as U call me an idiot.

Anyway, I'm going to run your theory with a random anime, add it to my cart even and remove it for a couple days in a row and see what happens even using screenshots.


Test it all you want at the end of the day people have known about it for years its not a new thing this is a common practise. Its basic marketing if amazon knows you like anime you will find you are paying more for boxsets compared to someone who has never viewed or brought one from them before.

Case in point multiple people have stated they see different prices on amazon compared to their friends.

Secondly click and bait exists. If you have an item sitting in your cart or wishlist and logoff, there is a strong probability the price of that item will rise. I guarantee you it will never decrease. They know you have every intention of buying it so they bump the prices.

Argue you all you want these mechanism's exist for the big company's just search around a bit I am not the only one who knows about this stuff, but for some reason not enough people know these things.

Some people talk about click bait here http://www.amazon.com/forum/where%20is%20the%20price?cdForum=FxGDJ62NQQH2Y8&cdSort=newest&cdThread=Tx3FHNPRWAS4ZHG

Its just basic marketing and profiting off of naive customers. The more you want sometime the more you pay. How do you think recommendation work? How do you think adds pop up advertising things you searched for the other day? Its an algorithm and a bloody complex one tracking your internet movements and altering accordingly. I got wise 3-4 years ago never going back. Block all adds, unblock all region restrictions, disable all trackers, hide browsing history do it all.
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Posted 11/15/15

element42 wrote:
Test it all you want at the end of the day people have known about it for years its not a new thing this is a common practise. Its basic marketing if amazon knows you like anime you will find you are paying more for boxsets compared to someone who has never viewed or brought one from them before.

Case in point multiple people have stated they see different prices on amazon compared to their friends.

Secondly click and bait exists. If you have an item sitting in your cart or wishlist and logoff, there is a strong probability the price of that item will rise. I guarantee you it will never decrease. They know you have every intention of buying it so they bump the prices.

Argue you all you want these mechanism's exist for the big company's just search around a bit I am not the only one who knows about this stuff, but for some reason not enough people know these things.

Some people talk about click bait here http://www.amazon.com/forum/where%20is%20the%20price?cdForum=FxGDJ62NQQH2Y8&cdSort=newest&cdThread=Tx3FHNPRWAS4ZHG

Its just basic marketing and profiting off of naive customers. The more you want sometime the more you pay. How do you think recommendation work? How do you think adds pop up advertising things you searched for the other day? Its an algorithm and a bloody complex one tracking your internet movements and altering accordingly. I got wise 3-4 years ago never going back. Block all adds, unblock all region restrictions, disable all trackers, hide browsing history do it all.


You have uncovered the fine art of the cookies!
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Posted 11/15/15

anikevin wrote:

It's worse if you buy anime figures, and get a recommendation for pony toys.

lol


Why would you even do that? You're most likely getting bootlegs..
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Posted 11/15/15

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element42 wrote:
Test it all you want at the end of the day people have known about it for years its not a new thing this is a common practise. Its basic marketing if amazon knows you like anime you will find you are paying more for boxsets compared to someone who has never viewed or brought one from them before.

Case in point multiple people have stated they see different prices on amazon compared to their friends.

Secondly click and bait exists. If you have an item sitting in your cart or wishlist and logoff, there is a strong probability the price of that item will rise. I guarantee you it will never decrease. They know you have every intention of buying it so they bump the prices.

Argue you all you want these mechanism's exist for the big company's just search around a bit I am not the only one who knows about this stuff, but for some reason not enough people know these things.

Some people talk about click bait here http://www.amazon.com/forum/where%20is%20the%20price?cdForum=FxGDJ62NQQH2Y8&cdSort=newest&cdThread=Tx3FHNPRWAS4ZHG

Its just basic marketing and profiting off of naive customers. The more you want sometime the more you pay. How do you think recommendation work? How do you think adds pop up advertising things you searched for the other day? Its an algorithm and a bloody complex one tracking your internet movements and altering accordingly. I got wise 3-4 years ago never going back. Block all adds, unblock all region restrictions, disable all trackers, hide browsing history do it all.


You have uncovered the fine art of the cookies!


Just look at all this BS and crunchyroll is not even bad.
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