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So, I build my own computers. I watch movies on DVD, BD, and listen to music on CD's, as well as stream stuff from over the Internet. However, something has come to my attention....

Crunchyroll is selling something called a Mystery Movie Bundle. It is a box of DVD movies from Japan, Korea, and China. These are all suppose to be "Region 1" DVDs. So, I know that if you install a DVD ROM drive into a computer, and you play movies from a certain region a certain number of times, it locks to that region and will never play movies from other regions again.

My question is this. Can I have two DVD ROMs with different Regions installed on the same computer? I have a DVD ROM drive that is already locked to Region 2 (I think it's Region 2 - United States). However, if I stick a new DVD ROM drive into my machine and play Region 1 movies, will it lock to Region 1 DVDs or will it lock-step with my existing DVD ROM drive and play Region 2 DVD's as soon as it is installed?
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It's been a long time since I've dealt with this, so please take this with a large grain of salt, but I believe the region setting is on the individual drive - I had one that would let me manually switch it a few times (rather than detecting and switching like yours does), but the 5th setting was the last time I could change it up. Even moving it to a new computer, it was still locked to that region, as expected.

There could also be things happening within the OS, though, that's what worries me at this point. One would think they'd let you install a bunch of drives with different region codes, but I've seen some really, really stupid things put into various OS's at times. That adds an extra wrinkle layer to this. Since you build computers, I'm guessing you've got a few laying around - if you move your currently locked drive to a new device with your preferred OS, is it still locked to the region that it was before? That will hopefully be a clue to how it'd react to another drive of a different region.
Posted 11/14/15 , edited 11/14/15

DeadlyOats wrote:

So, I build my own computers. I watch movies on DVD, BD, and listen to music on CD's, as well as stream stuff from over the Internet. However, something has come to my attention....

Crunchyroll is selling something called a Mystery Movie Bundle. It is a box of DVD movies from Japan, Korea, and China. These are all suppose to be "Region 1" DVDs. So, I know that if you install a DVD ROM drive into a computer, and you play movies from a certain region a certain number of times, it locks to that region and will never play movies from other regions again.

My question is this. Can I have two DVD ROMs with different Regions installed on the same computer? I have a DVD ROM drive that is already locked to Region 2 (I think it's Region 2 - United States). However, if I stick a new DVD ROM drive into my machine and play Region 1 movies, will it lock to Region 1 DVDs or will it lock-step with my existing DVD ROM drive and play Region 2 DVD's as soon as it is installed?


Unless you get an old drive, DVD drives keep the region setting in their firmware so once they lock they don't change. If you insert a region 1 disc in your locked region 2 drive Windows will tell you the region change limit has been exceeded. Windows shouldn't be a problem but I'd recommend using VLC cause the commercial software like PowerDVD keep track on their own.

I have a DVD drive I flashed with hacked firmware to make it region free and Windows has never refused to let me play a disc.
I have used region 1, 2, and 4 discs with it without a problem.
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Here's what i know: Region 1 is North-America, Region 2 is Europe and so on. Hopefully this helps.
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Region 4 is PAL aka Australia nad i beleive England?, def Australia.

It used to be easy to do a firmware flash for this, making the drive region free. But its risky cos you can stuff it up.
I recently tried to find firmware to help out my old man and i couldn't seem to find it. Not sure if its harder to do now or if i just was looking in the wrong places.
But yeah i remember back when i used to play dvds through my pc drive it had the same region lock thing and we flashed it and removed the problem.
Google your brand and model number and look for a region free firmware flash.

EDIT: oh i didn't read the whole thing. Yes you can have one drive for one region and one drive for another region. I dont see why not anyways?
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I assume you have Windows? I haven't hacked/flashed my BD/DVD-drive, but the software I have installed removes the issue of regions, disc protections, drive's region change limit, locked subtitles, even Cinavia, among others.
I highly suspect I can't say the name of the software openly here on forums, but look around a bit out there ...
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DeadlyOats wrote:
My question is this. Can I have two DVD ROMs with different Regions installed on the same computer? I have a DVD ROM drive that is already locked to Region 2 (I think it's Region 2 - United States). However, if I stick a new DVD ROM drive into my machine and play Region 1 movies, will it lock to Region 1 DVDs or will it lock-step with my existing DVD ROM drive and play Region 2 DVD's as soon as it is installed?


I have a DVD drive set to Region 2 (Europe & Japan) and a DVD drive set to Region 1 (USA) in the same computer running Windows 8. Both drives work independently of each other and keep their own region settings.

Both drives are on their first region setting as when I put the wrong region DVD in the wrong drive I eject it and cancel the region change. That way both drives are still open for me to change later and are far from getting locked.

Some of the suggestions above are to unlock the region, either by software or through updating the drive firmware. I have tried that in the past with my previous computer builds; sometimes it works and sometimes it causes glitches in the playback of the DVDs. That is why I have opted for two dedicated drives in my current build and I have not noticed any problems with playback.
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Thanks, everyone, for your replies! They were all helpful. I looked into some of the suggestions for software or firmware updates, but I think I want to keep it simple, and just add a new drive. With this knowledge, I think I can have a closer look at these DVD movie sales with the different regions.

Frankly, I think its stupid. In the age of "The Internet" and the "Global Economy", you'd think movie companies would want to sell their goods to as many customers as possible, and not lock themselves out of a potential market. You know?
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Posted 11/15/15 , edited 11/15/15
@DeadlyOats Even if you have a disc from wrong region and can't thus play it on your player, for such an occasion(like, if you receive a disc manufactured by Madman Australia for example), the option exists to copy the disc to hard drive first (player might not be able to run the movie disc, but the raw data/image should still be accessible, and for simply copying a disc image to hard-drive there exists a multitude of free and simple solutions out there...)

After that, just mount the ripped image with a virtual drive, for example DAEMONTools(perfectly legal, has plenty of legitimate uses, just to note...) and you're good to go for an absolutely authentic DVD-viewing experience.

But a lot simpler and straightforward option, in case of DVD(BD is trickier) would be to just play/open the ripped folder/image straight in your preferred software player, like mpc-hc or vlc (Hopefully you don't use wmp. No-one uses that...).
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