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Post Reply Employment & Education: Right or Privilege?
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Posted 11/14/15
Education and employment are required for sustaining life, meaning to earn an income to pay for one's cost of living.

not everyone has employment and education. a lot of people have education but are having a hard time getting employment. when one applies for work an employer has the freedom to pick and choose who to hire. there are people who want education but can't afford it. This can be frustrating. As a result education becomes more of a privilege, accessible to a chosen few. but they are needed for everyone to maintain life.

However, if they are rights, they would have to be guaranteed they can not be denied.

So my question for you is:

Should education and employment be treated as a right or privilege?
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Posted 11/14/15 , edited 11/14/15
While I do think the education system needs an overhaul (both on the public level and college) it shouldn't have to be a right. Education is very expensive after high school and unless you want to be working a job instead of a career you need a college level education or a trade/certification to back up your GED. That being said, only those who work the hardest seem to be rewarded in the long run. I've seen plenty of kids attend college and obtain their degree only to find a mediocre job that barely pays the bills. It almost seems like you need connections these days unless you're one of the top students in your class. Being above average simply doesn't cut it a lot of the time. Education might as well be viewed the same way the market is. Competition. You have to be better than everyone else because that's what companies are looking for. The best.

Nothing should be handed to anyone nor a right in this case, but there are problems that need to be addressed within the education system to better reflect the reality of our current economy.

Kids, don't waste your time or squander any benefits you get when education is involved. You'll be lucky to end up doing what you want and live the way you want. Expectations are rarely met these days.
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Posted 11/14/15
Education is a right and employment is a privilege.

If society expects something of someone, then they must provide (or at least seek to provide) that individual with the tools necessary to complete the task entrusted to them. Does a company expect its products to build themselves? No, of course not. They put time, effort, and money into them in order to better guarantee that they succeed in turning a profit. Investment (i.e. social programs, welfare, etc.) is required if we're to expect the product to yield any gain.

If we want the economy to do well under a free market, we have to ensure that the populace as a whole are offered some form of aid. Education is one of those benefits, and like most of them it should be offered within the public-sector.
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Posted 11/14/15 , edited 11/15/15
There should be something between rights and privileges.

"Rights" sounds indispensable and sounds like something that doesn't require any effort on the part of the person claiming them.

"Privilege" sounds dispensable and suggests that it must be somehow earned.

Although education is important and the system in the US is getting more broken every year, it's not exactly a privilege and shouldn't be treated like one, IMO. Everyone should be given a chance at education, although they need to put in their own effort to earn the degree and complete the courses. If you have a chance and fail to take it seriously, that's on you when you waste that chance.

Work is necessary for sustaining a lifestyle that doesn't require cumbersome government support but, at the same time, people should not be allowed to keep jobs they are incompetent with. Without work, poorness inevitably results and we probably don't want that. Still, it's important to protect consumers and employers by favoring good workers.
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Posted 11/14/15 , edited 11/15/15
http://www.crengland.com/truck-driving-schools

There you go, free school and a job after it.
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Posted 11/14/15 , edited 11/14/15
Neither, it is what it is.

If you want employment you need to be able to do something, but when there's nothing that you can do, or nobody who wants to employ you, then you can't be expected to do something.

On the subject of education, two hundred years ago they did perfectly fine with third grade educations. Nowadays, we have the internet. I expect that the level of education through high school is already easily available by using free online services. You can "educate" yourself with free classics.

So neither. The world will turn, and eventually we won't need to do work or have an education, but being able to work and using the accumulated knowledge of our ancestors will likely never be a bad thing.

Really, I think it's probably more who you know. If you know the right person, they can teach you what you should know to do the work they can help you do. And that makes you both educated and employable.
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Posted 11/14/15 , edited 11/15/15
Both are Privileges in my opinion.

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Both of them are privileges. Education merely increases your chances and options to get a good job. All you have to do is to consider what you would do if you were born in a third world county and had to do subsistence farming.

It's also true that people value those things that they have to work for, which is why it is better in the long run if they have to help pay for things like higher education.
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Posted 11/14/15

VZ68 wrote:

http://www.crengland.com/truck-driving-schools

There you go, free school and a job after it.
this feels like deja vu, exactly how much commission do you earn with each referral?
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Posted 11/14/15
Education is a right (assuming you continue to abide the law through your course of school)

Employment is a privilege that depends on whether you are willing to do the job in question. And again, if you break the law then you shouldn't be employed anywhere by anyone.
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Posted 11/14/15

FlyinDumpling wrote:


VZ68 wrote:

http://www.crengland.com/truck-driving-schools

There you go, free school and a job after it.
this feels like deja vu, exactly how much commission do you earn with each referral?


Zero.

I just like using it as an example. Also if you don't believe me, check the URL, there isn't a referral tag in it.

Posted 11/14/15
I think all education should be free (so right). For a job no idea though.
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Education is a negative right, while a job should be a requirement unless you are physically or mentally incapable of working.

What is a negative right, and its inverse, a positive right? A positive right is a right that requires action. A negative right does not. As an example, a positive right to life means that if someone's life was in danger, everyone would be morally obligated to protect them. A negative right to life simply means that it is morally wrong to kill or try to kill a person. This is a simplification of the idea, but conveys the meaning.

A negative right to education is where society offers a free primary education to all. You have the choice to take advantage of it or not. I personally think the current US primary education system needs a major overhaul, but the opportunity to an education exists. The purpose of this is...

As a member of society you are, or should be, expected to contribute to it and support yourself barring physical or mental infirmity.
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Posted 11/14/15
Education is a right, employment is a wrong,(if you've got the right job).
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Posted 11/14/15
i do not like the term "privilege"
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