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I don't remember paying $100 for the premium plus but I did, can't do that again this year. The $6.95 for premium doesn't seem very money friendly either.
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IIRC there was no deal last year, sorry. Maybe they'll change their mind, but I wouldn't bank on it since they keep reporting explosive growth.
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Posted 11/15/15

ShinAmaterasu wrote:

I don't remember paying $100 for the premium plus but I did, can't do that again this year. The $6.95 for premium doesn't seem very money friendly either.

You're missing that the 12 month plan for premium (no plus) is $59.95, or less than $5 per month:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/premium_pick_plan?membership=premium

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Posted 11/15/15 , edited 11/26/15

TheAncientOne wrote:


ShinAmaterasu wrote:

I don't remember paying $100 for the premium plus but I did, can't do that again this year. The $6.95 for premium doesn't seem very money friendly either.

You're missing that the 12 month plan for premium (no plus) is $59.95, or less than $5 per month:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/premium_pick_plan?membership=premium



I was wondering about that, it's not easy finding the pricing pages here
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Posted 11/27/15
Welp no deal this year either, looks like that's it for me
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Posted 11/27/15 , edited 12/20/15

ShinAmaterasu wrote:

Welp no deal this year either, looks like that's it for me


I believe that the regular discount we offer for yearly memberships at all times is already a very good deal (28% off for regular Premium, 30% for Premium+).
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ShinAmaterasu wrote:

Welp no deal this year either, looks like that's it for me


I'm sorry to hear it. I wish you all the best... and I wish I could say "No, please stay and things will get better", but I have no room to say anything if this is your particular "straw that broke the camel's back". There have been a few too many changes for the worse since the buyout that wasn't a buyout. \(-_-)尸

Ah, well. Haters gonna hate, corporate-ers gonna corporate. (^_~)

If I thought the reason they stopped doing the Black Friday discount on membership (which seemed like a present to loyal users who knew about it) were that they wanted to raise money for new equipment and/or for paying the staff better, I'd actually be glad. But there's been no sign of either happening; if anything, the opposite. And given the continued focus on recruitment of new users rather than retention of old ones (which is very much in line with the current corporate philosophies of "Growth!" and "Short-Term Profit!", instead of sustainability or long-term profit), I seriously doubt that will change.
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Posted 11/27/15 , edited 11/30/15
This really bites as a University Student. Was hoping for a black Friday deal.
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I believe that the regular discount we offer for yearly memberships at all times is already a very good deal (28% off for regular Premium, 30% for Premium+).


It is.
It's right on the sweet spot for me, and will continue to be for the future.

It's just the fact that those of us who tried it got blood on out teeth, as we knew this offer only lasted for one day each year, where we could save some of our favorite service.
It makes perfect sense that you cannot just lower the prices for a prolonged timeperiod, but what if you combined it with some kind of offer, or in some way made it so that it would also benefit CR.

"Buy for $xx in the shop and get a discount Black Friday code for membership!"
Idk, you're the creative ones.
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If I thought the reason they stopped doing the Black Friday discount on membership (which seemed like a present to loyal users who knew about it) were that they wanted to raise money for new equipment and/or for paying the staff better, I'd actually be glad. But there's been no sign of either happening; if anything, the opposite. And given the continued focus on recruitment of new users rather than retention of old ones (which is very much in line with the current corporate philosophies of "Growth!" and "Short-Term Profit!", instead of sustainability or long-term profit), I seriously doubt that will change.


There are a lot of times when I hate being right; this is one of them. Five hours later, confirmation in another thread:


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RAD_ED wrote:

Wait what, so sign up for a 30day FREE trial get a free japan crate well us PREMIUM members don't get access to the same deal? wtf. At least offer at a discount or something.


These kinds of deals are used to draw in new members. It's much more difficult and expensive to gain new customers than it is to keep existing customers.


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shinryou wrote:

I believe that the regular discount we offer for yearly memberships at all times is already a very good deal (28% off for regular Premium, 30% for Premium+).


If the regular discount was that good of a deal then a lot less people would've been relying on the now discontinued Black Friday discount and the unexpected absence of that discount would not have caught people quite so off guard and spawned over forty pages of discussion.
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If the regular discount was that good of a deal then a lot less people would've been relying on the now discontinued Black Friday discount and the unexpected absence of that discount would not have caught people quite so off guard and spawned over forty pages of discussion.


You have to keep in mind that half of the subscription fees go straight to Japan. If we offered a subscription at 50% off, we'd literally give it away for free.

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shinryou wrote:

TiggsPanther wrote:
If the regular discount was that good of a deal then a lot less people would've been relying on the now discontinued Black Friday discount and the unexpected absence of that discount would not have caught people quite so off guard and spawned over forty pages of discussion.

You have to keep in mind that half of the subscription fees go straight to Japan. If we offered a subscription at 50% off, we'd literally give it away for free.

I don't think anyone is saying they want 50% discounts. I don't know, maybe some are... but I doubt they speak for even a significant minority. (Nor were the Black Friday deals a 50% discount for the large majority of yearly subscribers. IIRC, it was only $10 off of $60.)

I think most of the people who are upset may have started in that direction with memories of the $10 discount, but it was small at that point. Announcing "Hey, we'll give you neat stuff but only if you're a new subscriber" in the same time frame really didn't help.

(Not to mention that with the other ongoing unaddressed issues, it doesn't take too much more straw to break a camel's back.)
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TiggsPanther wrote:

If the regular discount was that good of a deal then a lot less people would've been relying on the now discontinued Black Friday discount and the unexpected absence of that discount would not have caught people quite so off guard and spawned over forty pages of discussion.


You have to keep in mind that half of the subscription fees go straight to Japan. If we offered a subscription at 50% off, we'd literally give it away for free.



Fair point. However, up until last year's there were subscription discounts on Black Friday. So further discounts were clearly viable, up to a point. And people were awfully upset when it wasn't on offer last year.
Not just because it wasn't offered, but more that it was sprung on people who were used to it being annual and, in some cases, had actually budgeted around it.

Also, enough people were asking about it ahead of time that you had to know that people were planning their finances around that.

And the "replacement" deals, however good, had no real value to international subscribers as the shipping ate into any savings made. And even domestic subscribers would risk having less money available for sales if their membership renewal suddenly jumped up from the previous year.

I think one thing that Crunchyroll needs to keep in mind is that if many people want (or in some cases relied on) a subscription discount, maybe the regular rates aren't enticing enough and you need to find some way of making it seem worthwhile to stay a member.
(Like, maybe, implementing some of the queue enhancements people have been clamouring for over the past couple of years)

I also think that one of the issues is that, if you're outside the US, the regional catalogue restrictions can make some people hesitant to pay out full price when they don't feel like they're getting the full catalogue. And when a lot of the deals aren't viable outside of the US and a lot of the catalogue editions are US/Canada-only then a lot of the membership perks seem lessened.

Seriously, removing a deal that catered for everyone (especially international members) and putting in something that was barely any value at all for international members was a bad move last year.
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Posted 11/29/15

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Fair point. However, up until last year's there were subscription discounts on Black Friday. So further discounts were clearly viable, up to a point. And people were awfully upset when it wasn't on offer last year.
Not just because it wasn't offered, but more that it was sprung on people who were used to it being annual and, in some cases, had actually budgeted around it.

Also, enough people were asking about it ahead of time that you had to know that people were planning their finances around that.

And the "replacement" deals, however good, had no real value to international subscribers as the shipping ate into any savings made. And even domestic subscribers would risk having less money available for sales if their membership renewal suddenly jumped up from the previous year.

I think one thing that Crunchyroll needs to keep in mind is that if many people want (or in some cases relied on) a subscription discount, maybe the regular rates aren't enticing enough and you need to find some way of making it seem worthwhile to stay a member.
(Like, maybe, implementing some of the queue enhancements people have been clamouring for over the past couple of years)

I also think that one of the issues is that, if you're outside the US, the regional catalogue restrictions can make some people hesitant to pay out full price when they don't feel like they're getting the full catalogue. And when a lot of the deals aren't viable outside of the US and a lot of the catalogue editions are US/Canada-only then a lot of the membership perks seem lessened.

Seriously, removing a deal that catered for everyone (especially international members) and putting in something that was barely any value at all for international members was a bad move last year.


Had the Black Friday deal made financial sense with the number of extra subscribers at an additional discount, I don't see why it wouldn't have been offered again this year. But it wasn't, so that leads me to believe that the additional subscribers didn't offset the loses from the holiday discounted membership plans.
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