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Post Reply If Link and Cloud Strife were to get into a duel, who would win?
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Posted 6/8/16 , edited 6/9/16
woops! i accidentally voted for Navi. don't know know about it, but it's clearly pretty strong!
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Posted 6/11/16 , edited 6/11/16
Triforce overlord: to you, my brave fella, i shall give you the Triforce of Courage to help on your quest and defeat the evil lord Ganon!
Link: so...what does it do?
Triforce overlord: it feels you with heroic courage to fight Ganon!
Link: do i have a choice (of not fighting)?
Triforce overlord: nope.
Link: ............
Link: what about the Triforce of power?
Triforce overlord: already gave that away. Ganon really wanted it for some reason.
Link: what, why would you give it to someone who wants to spread evil?!
Triforce overlord: .................
Link: .................
Triforce overlord: .................
Link: .................
Triforce overlord: .................
Link: .................
Triforce overlord: .................
Link: .................
Link: and the Triforce of wisdom?
Triforce overlord: i lost it. supposedly someone from Hyrule found it, that's all i know.
Link: .................
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Posted 6/11/16 , edited 6/11/16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o2SV6ynJYQ
I am just going to leave this here
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Posted 6/8/16 , edited 6/9/16
don't forget to add spoiler tags if you post multiple images.
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Posted 6/13/16 , edited 6/13/16
which link is the question here
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Posted 6/8/16 , edited 6/9/16

namealreadytaken wrote:

don't forget to add spoiler tags if you post multiple images.


Cool

Link is like nintendos version of marvel super heros combined.

Links thunder medallion and fairy spell: calls thunder storms and can fly (Thor)
Links minish cap and giants mask: grow to a giant or a tiny object (Ant-man)
Links arsenal: hundreds of items and combat equipment (iron-man)
Links magic and mystical: Relics and enchantments (Dr. Strange)
Links fighting ability's, physical strength and destructive power (base hulk)

A composite link is like nintendos, thor, ant-man, iron man, Dr. strange and hulk combined.
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Smooothhh wrote:

Advantages:

- Link is physically stronger at base and by enhancements: 10 - 1,000 tons to clouds 200 lb strength and is vastly superior hand to hand
- Link has better maneuverability:Can fly, glide and jump 100+ feet, has speed enhancers that put him at superhuman speed, to surpass clouds agility and jumping.
- Has better durability, and endurance enhancements, via can become invulnerable, intangible, impervious and un-seeable in several ways
- Link is immune to 90% of what cloud can do with holy rings, cloud is not immune to 90% of what link can do from short range to long, physical and magical
- Link can beat cloud in the sky, in lava, under water and on land and has the better long range weapons to clouds short range materia
- Cloud usually fights with team work 90% of the time, while 90% of the time link solos hundreds of bosses.
- Has more destructive power, clouds small sky-scrapper debris vs links wall, pillar and building size objects he blows up with his sword or bombs
- Can become godly in several ways, four swords x giant mask = four giants, or fierce deity, or all 3 tri-forces.


What are the advantages of cloud?


He's hella hot?



I would, without hesitation, ravish that.
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Posted 9/26/16 , edited 9/27/16
Although this was also done in Death Battle, i'm still gonna say Cloud.
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Posted 6/9/16 , edited 6/9/16

XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


Smooothhh wrote:

I dont care what you wanna do, you've proven your self an idiot with made up statistics in living in denial to links basic feats.

That's weird. Rereading the convo only affirms that you're blindly picking link over your nostalgia goggles.


Is this coming from the guy who denied link can fly? lol Cloud is a one trick pony, maybe you should blame the writers, not the character for being so weak compared to link.

Nah just choosing facts over fanboy rants...please tell us more, of how you cant even quantify clouds low power level, you have to repeat, cloud does...impossible moves...with a...impossible sword...ha ha ha, wow you have literally nothing for cloud so you just substitute impossible... everyone in the game universe are doing impossible things, these are why they are fictional characters, but in terms of the impossible, clouds feats are weak, low lvl'd and unimpressive compared to the lot of power houses. I can easily quantify cloud in his own universe of FF, in final fantasy tactics he was weaker than agrias, gafgarion, and thunder god cid, he lost to sora, doesnt even come close to terra, titus, or any other FF hero pound for pound, even squall would kill cloud. Yet in links universe, link is top dog. This is why you can show no strength feats or power feats that matched links


So basically for 10+ years of over 10 games/movies/anime/spinoffs and pretty much the highest selling FF game ever, with the most cameos than any other FF character, and the only destructive powers and strength cloud has is not lifting anything above 200 lbs, cutting falling debris, and killing a dragon he really couldn't reach on his own?

wow

Thats not even close to links strength and destructive power of:

- Link lifting/pulling/throwing 100 tons unaided and 1,000 tons with the G.G and 10,000+ tons with the giants mask
- Boxing feats speedsters and 1 ton strength punchers and experts ring making his punches equivalent to bombs
- Chopping through metal and 50 foot giant stone monsters and slicing building sized pillars to pieces.
- Blowing up 1,000 ton stone walls and blowing up pyramids with just his bomb/arrows
- Sword beams that blows up walls, one shots 100 feet giants, 3 shots dragons bigger than bahamut and one shotting entire armies.

Can transform into any of the oracle of seasons monsters with magic rings
Can transform into various beings with masks like gorons, zoras, dekus and gods
Can be impenetrable, invulnerable, impervious, and indestructible in more than several ways

Has an arsenal of over 200 items, combative, magical and mystical

What does cloud have again? Ohh yeah, its impossible to quantify, yet we have guys like superman who tows planets, reality warpers like the beyonder, speedsters like goku, planet busters, galaxy busters, and universe busters, but when it comes to quantify cloud, all you have is your own words of...impossible things.

Ha ha ha

I like how 80,000+ people had there goggles on too when they up voted the link vs cloud death battle, and maybe all the polls are just bias people too...

From small polls to larger ones:

http://www.debate.org/opinions/polls/link-vs-cloud-whos-better

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3856-contest-final-link-vs-cloud-strife

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/1780-tournament-final-link-vs-cloud-strife

https://thetfp.com/tfp/tilted-gaming/25133-link-vs-cloud-gamefaqs.html

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Link_vs_Cloud_Strife_2005

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Cloud_Strife_vs_Link_vs_Sephiroth_vs_Solid_Snake_2006


And the funny thing is, most of these polls were before death battle even came out, before several games which upgraded links arsenal even came out, before most would even think of the composite concept....all these people were 100% bias and had goggles on. lol

Link stomps cloud.

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Posted 9/27/16 , edited 9/27/16
At first thought Cloud, but if Link has all the gear he's acquired throughout multiple games, then he's pretty much godlike. Light arrow kills all.
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Posted 6/9/16 , edited 6/9/16
Advantages:

- Link is physically stronger at base and by enhancements: 10 - 1,000 tons to clouds 200 lb strength and is vastly superior hand to hand
- Link has better maneuverability:Can fly, glide and jump 100+ feet, has speed enhancers that put him at superhuman speed, to surpass clouds agility and jumping.
- Has better durability, and endurance enhancements, via can become invulnerable, intangible, impervious and un-seeable in several ways
- Link is immune to 90% of what cloud can do with holy rings, cloud is not immune to 90% of what link can do from short range to long, physical and magical
- Link can beat cloud in the sky, in lava, under water and on land and has the better long range weapons to clouds short range materia
- Cloud usually fights with team work 90% of the time, while 90% of the time link solos hundreds of bosses.
- Has more destructive power, clouds small sky-scrapper debris vs links wall, pillar and building size objects he blows up with his sword or bombs
- Can become godly in several ways, four swords x giant mask = four giants, or fierce deity, or all 3 tri-forces.


What are the advantages of cloud?
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Posted 9/27/16 , edited 9/27/16
Oh god. I remember this thread.

Derps be thinking a human could beat a superhuman. Tsk
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Posted 6/9/16 , edited 6/9/16
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"cloud you stink"
lol harsh.

most of the polls is pretty close, except for the 1st and last one.
i think we should also factor in battle tactics, strategy, the combat experience and not just the toys they have at their disposal.
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Posted 10/25/17 , edited 10/25/17
Cool, that people love Link and all. I'm alright with him.

But cloud strife is far more of a fighter then Link will ever be. I keep seeing one thing people are commonly missing, the items at cloud's disposal specially the Armor "Ziedrich" The one you still from rude before you board the rocket ship, is an Item with no Materia slots, but the catch of it is. It is the single strongest armor in the game, it raises strength, and it halves all elemental properties

Light, Darkness, Lighting, Fire, Ice, Earth, Gravity, Water, Wind. Are the elements that one piece of armor can cut the damage of that is not even including adding things like a Tertra elemental or another accessory that could add additional benefits to the character.

Secondly if the Ultima weapon Aka Atma weapon (Since it was a miss translation in Final Fantasy VI) has the ability to by the standards of the weapon that it bypasses defense both physical and magical, it also has 255 accuracy , and 255 attack (Which because the game can go any higher in numbers is advising that this is the thee strongest weapon in that world) It contains a Total of Eight materia slots, and they are all linked.

The linking of this materia creates a greater ebb and flow to battle, an can also result in multiple things that can be used in regard to the strategy of the battle.

Based off the magic alone in this world in the Final Fantasy universe, if the magic was left to carve out the planet an not just a little effect on the background. There would be massive, and untold damage done to the planet and possible surroundings. Spells in Final Fantasy VII are huge the amount of strategy in just something as simple as the fire spell is a good example

Since Fire 1 : Engulfs the target in mystic fire that comes out of the very body of the opponent.

Fire 2 : Creates a fiery pillar that surrounds the opponent in a circle of fire (If you remember history Sun Tzu, used a similar strategy with arrows. It took no more then 5 minutes for 100 men to be burned by a ring of fire. An we can't tell how hot the fire is, and based off the animation it could be assumed that the fire is literally connecting with the core of the planet and hitting the molten layer,)

Fire 3 : Combustion spell so powerful it implodes inward into a mini flare that engulfs the entire person. The idea of such a spell in real life would be the equivalence of a C-4 bomb going off and taking out a city block.

This is a low level spell, that is one of the more basic magics in the world of Final Fantasy VII, this is not talking about the other things.

Cloud strife in himself is a fighter to the extremes, He has proven he can handle Enemies both big and small, an has feats to prove his prowess in battle. Infact, the speed of his fighting his so intense in the fights in advent his attacks literally blur, which means he is moving at a speed with his swings that are literally faster then the human eye.

Link is powerful, but I'm not sure how some one who relies on a magical accesories can compare to someone who lives in a world where magic and the matter of powerful foes lurk in many corners of there world.

Another point of reference is the fact that yes, the strategy of cloud strife attack style, and based off cannon is that cloud can use a numerous forms of weapons. He was a shinra infintry troop, who died at Niblheim, and clone was spawned of mix of zack cells, and clouds cells. Later on in event that would cause the the summoning of meteor. The puppet cloud (The clone in other words.) Was lost in the stream and the real cloud who washed back up on Mideel are different souls. The reason why you help piece back the memories is it because the real cloud is who is being brought back by the help of the life stream not the clone who you become found of before he betrays the party.

Cloud is able to fight multiple people at one time going at him with, guns at high speed on a road while fighting on a motorcycle. I'm sorry link but epona is not a motorized vehicle, and the speed percision it takes to do these things is immense. I mean ride a bike and swing a foam sword around while trying to keep your balance an the machine on the same path at the same time. Alot harder then its sounds.

So in that respect just looking at simple things this Hero has done. I can only see it as the character as having more versatility to the enviroment he fights in. If link is knocked off his feet, he is proned. If cloud is knocked on his feet, he does what he can to get out of his proned action and get back up to a fighting position or choices the right weapon that he has with him. Otherwise, he is shown scaling the sided of falling debris . running up slabs of stone and steel, slicing through sky scrappers, metal scaff folding, and even cutting through stone as if it is nothing but an obstacle.

Yet some how, people state that link has these feats as well. However, I do not know where they are getting it from, I've seen his weapons tools, and strategies. In a real fight i feel if link is smart tries to make sure to peck cloud off at a distance he may have an advantage. But what happens if his aim isn't true or that just alerts the fighter to his position, or who is to say he doesn't have the wall ring on that provides both protection and m-barrier to the wearer.

There are so many outcomes to the possibility but one thing is standard. Cloud Strife, has more abilities then his game leads on, and Link who is also a formidable opponent has greater strengths to that can be contestant to cloud's if he where a normal human being. But this is not the case, cloud is a SOLDIER 1st class - this does mean he has the ability and skills of what that entitles for the Jenova project, an also provides in-site to his abilities. An we know for a fact that a SOLDIER, doesn't even have to be a special division but anybody who has Jenova cells has super human reflexes and speed.
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