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Posted 11/18/15

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As an American I cannot say no to this



As mentioned earlier in this thread, when you can show me the part on the statue where it says we should let in those who want to kill us and destroy our way of life because we believe in a different God, I'll consider letting them in.



Not sure what you mean by statue but are you talking about religious reference? If you are I can show you where it is.

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Show me where, on the Statue of Liberty, it says that we should take in those that want to kill us because we believe in a different God.



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There are other ways we can handle things like that...


Nah, that's Russia's job now. We're too busy taking selfies with our red Starbucks cups.

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Posted 11/18/15 , edited 11/18/15

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Is that picture big enough? x3


I know right! It's freakin huge but I could not find any other ones. For some reason they keep coming and going on google images.


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I'm fairly ambivalent to bringing refugees here.. I can't say I'm ecstatic about the idea given all the risks. On the other hand taking in the downtrodden is something America has come to symbolize and it does seem wrong to blithely go against that, even when we already have plenty of problems at home... I just really hope we have better screening than the French did if we do take any of them in.
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Here's my opinion on the matter. Most of these so called refugees are healthy and relatively well fed adults over the age of 18 and below the age of 55. They are cowards for not staying behind and fighting to make their country a better place. And cowards in my opinion don't deserve anything let alone refuge in a first world country. Instead of taking all of them in the first world nations should teach them to find their back bone and a work ethic.
Posted 11/18/15 , edited 11/18/15

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Here's my opinion on the matter. Most of these so called refugees are healthy and relatively well fed adults over the age of 18 and below the age of 55. They are cowards for not staying behind and fighting to make their country a better place. And cowards in my opinion don't deserve anything let alone refuge in a first world country. Instead of taking all of them in the first world nations should teach them to find their back bone and a work ethic.


A bit harsh, but I believe your statistic of health males in a certain age range are right from what I've heard. Haven't fact checked yet to see if they're more economic migrants or whatever.
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A bit harsh, but I believe your statistic of health males in a certain age range are right from what I've heard. Haven't fact checked yet to see if they're more economic migrants.


Male, female it doesn't matter. After all plenty of armies now sport female soldiers so the women of this refugee horde have no excuse not to fight. And yeah it's a bit harsh but after my time in Afghanistan and spending time training the locals, patrolling IED ridden roads and fire fights with the camel jockeys I have little patience for the whining of the Middle East. Yeah I agree we of the west cause you all a lot of problems but expecting us to carry you forever is a bit much. We gave you uniforms, weapons,training, even economic aid. The first world didn't become the first world by complaining and running to mommy every time a bully showed up.
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Posted 11/18/15

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Ranwolf wrote:

Here's my opinion on the matter. Most of these so called refugees are healthy and relatively well fed adults over the age of 18 and below the age of 55. They are cowards for not staying behind and fighting to make their country a better place. And cowards in my opinion don't deserve anything let alone refuge in a first world country. Instead of taking all of them in the first world nations should teach them to find their back bone and a work ethic.


A bit harsh, but I believe your statistic of health males in a certain age range are right from what I've heard. Haven't fact checked yet to see if they're more economic migrants or whatever.


Regardless of how old or well fed, why do we need to help at all when other countries, and places have offered aid? We can offer aid from afar plus we can host them somewhere else. I think the threat/risk is just too great in order to be taking in this many refugees especially when we do not have the resources.

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Only if they assimilate into American culture.
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Akage-chan wrote:
I don't remember there being a line on there asking for us to take in "those that want to kill us and destroy what we believe in because we believe in a different Spaghetti Monster". Because that's exactly what we'd be doing by letting them all in.

The Jews did not hijack our planes on 9/11 and kill over 3000 people that day. The Jews did not commit the subway attack in the UK on 7/7, and they weren't bombing Paris last week. If the Syrians want us to take them in, start cleaning up your own population first by getting rid of the extremism. Because, I guarantee you that if a group of people were out doing what ISIS is doing in Syria, there would be a lot of Americans willing to clean up that mess themselves.



You're implying that all the Syrian refugees want to kill? So what if they believe in a different religion from yours, it doesn't mean they're going to bomb America.
The refugees didn't cuase 9/11 or the other attacks, it was radical extremists.
Also regarding Paris, the attack was carried out by French citizens, not refugees. The refugees are fleeing from a war-striken country, running for their lives and running from terror. You can't generalise a whole group of people down to a few events.
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Posted 11/18/15 , edited 11/19/15

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You're implying that all the Syrian refugees want to kill? So what if they believe in a different religion from yours, it doesn't mean they're going to bomb America.
The refugees didn't cuase 9/11 or the other attacks, it was radical extremists.
Also regarding Paris, the attack was carried out by French citizens, not refugees. The refugees are fleeing from a war-striken country, running for their lives and running from terror. You can't generalise a whole group of people down to a few events.



It's the fact they are running that pisses me off. What kind of adult runs from their duty to their country and countrymen?
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Should they just stay there and wait till their family members or themselves either get killed by IS, rebel groups, the Syrian goverment or get bombed by western countries? Isn't it a natural human response to run from danger? You can't expect people to survive in a war zone.
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Posted 11/18/15 , edited 11/18/15

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You're implying that all the Syrian refugees want to kill? So what if they believe in a different religion from yours, it doesn't mean they're going to bomb America.
The refugees didn't cuase 9/11 or the other attacks, it was radical extremists.
Also regarding Paris, the attack was carried out by French citizens, not refugees. The refugees are fleeing from a war-striken country, running for their lives and running from terror. You can't generalise a whole group of people down to a few events.


Information regarding the Paris bombers' citizenship has not been fully released. Several of them had Syrian passports. Some of those may have been counterfeited, but as an article from the UK showed, it was very easy for someone to buy a real but photo substituted Syrian passport for $2K. The current information being released is that at least one of the attackers was a recently arrived refugee.

Who knows if all the Syrians want to kill us...do you know? Have you talked to them all? Because until my government can do a comprehensive vetting on each and every one of them, I don't want any in the US. And seeing as how their government can't provide that information to us, I'm more than content to let them go back to their countries or linger in Europe until they can be properly vetted.

If the Syrians want safety, try working together, as a group, to defeat your occupiers. Freedom isn't free.

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Posted 11/18/15 , edited 11/19/15

wavves wrote:



Should they just stay there and wait till their family members or themselves either get killed by IS, rebel groups, the Syrian government or get bombed by western countries? Isn't it a natural human response to run from danger? You can't expect people to survive in a war zone.



People survive in war zones all the time..they're called Soldiers and all soldiers were once civilians so these cowards can learn to be soldiers and make their country a better place by wiping out ISIS. Or they can earn our disdain by expecting the First World to send it's citizens to die for a foreign nation that is unwilling to defend itself.
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Posted 11/18/15 , edited 11/19/15
Don't do it. My country took in quite a few of refugees and sure there are actual real refugees, but there are also the terrorists which are most likely among them to infiltrate your country and do stupid stuff like bomb it etc.
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