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Posted 11/18/15
http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-869643/how-evil-can-you-be-not-for-the-faint-of-heart

Here we go! I actually did post this on Crunchyroll! I thought I did!

It was over a year ago, I can't believe that many people jumped on my case. A couple of people knew what was going on, but it didn't really matter, this reminds me how people here ran me off the forums. Sigh....
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Posted 11/18/15 , edited 11/18/15
Depends on the situation because i can't work because of my disability in most situation that's not using it as a
crutch that's just fact

That being said the reason i can't work is more because people are not accepting of how i am more then anything.
I have meltdowns which i can't control myself (it happens with people who get to stressed with Autism) and i can say / do some pretty mean things whilst not in control of my actions or even self harm

So it depends what you see as a someone using as a crutch i mean because of my past i can't date anymore without being worried 24/7 to some they would see that as using there past as a crutch.

It's all subjective.

That being said just because you can't do something due to your disability or society itself doesn't mean you shouldn't give up ....i mean i know i will never get a job employed under someone myself as i would lose it just as fast as i gain it but that's just more motivation to be my own boss.

(i have a feeling someone is going to see me saying i can't get a job as a crutch but it's not it's being realistic big difference )
Posted 11/18/15
I particularly don't like it.
Posted 11/18/15
I would like to say most of the time it's unconscious tendency, but as a society it would probably be wise to call people out on the matter and "keep them in check" for lack of better words, to keep things from getting out of hand.
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Posted 11/19/15 , edited 11/19/15
I dislike weak people in general (okay, I dislike people period), but that's probably because I feel no empathy towards anything. Using a "crutch" as you put it as an excuse to avoid taking responsibility is pathetic to say the least. I've only met two people with disabilities that were like that though.
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My best friend was hit by a car and almost died and it was pretty much a miracle he survived. Broke pretty much every bone in his body, extensive rehab, was told he'd never walk again, etc, the works. But now its 3 years later and he has fortunately made a full recovery. unless he showed you his scars (which he would even if you didn't ask) you'd never know anything happened to him.
The thing is that he makes it a point to tell in extensive detail to every one he meets what happened, and uses their pity to manipulate those around him. Being pretty much his only friend, he must have gotten aggravated that I was immune to his manipulation and would not treat him differently just because something bad happened to him, because we're not friends anymore. To this day he collects disability, unemployment, and since he was in the reserves, the army sends him money too. All this on top of the fact that he is a millionaire because he sued every person he possibly could for everything they were worth. Theres a long story to why we're not friends anymore so I wont go into detail, just know that these are the kind of people I absolutely despise, and the whole experience has allowed me to know when I meet "disabled" people, whether or not they actually have an issue, or they're trying to play on my pity.
Don't treat physically disabled people any differently, and see how they react. Many don't want to be treated the same, they just want to coast on pity for the rest of their lives.
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I was told I was autistic in high school by my guidance counselor. Now I am attempting to get into an intermediate algebra(MAT-114) completed world literature lv 2(ENG-200/B+) and have two A's in intro to PHI(105) and PHI-ethics(105) all done in College. All without ever visiting a tutor.

Sometimes I think people get told they have disabilities simple because people like me would refuse to do anything in school.

So I agree, it's not a good excuse for not trying.
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stopkilling0 wrote:

My best friend was hit by a car and almost died and it was pretty much a miracle he survived. Broke pretty much every bone in his body, extensive rehab, was told he'd never walk again, etc, the works. But now its 3 years later and he has fortunately made a full recovery. unless he showed you his scars (which he would even if you didn't ask) you'd never know anything happened to him.
The thing is that he makes it a point to tell in extensive detail to every one he meets what happened, and uses their pity to manipulate those around him. Being pretty much his only friend, he must have gotten aggravated that I was immune to his manipulation and would not treat him differently just because something bad happened to him, because we're not friends anymore. To this day he collects disability, unemployment, and since he was in the reserves, the army sends him money too. All this on top of the fact that he is a millionaire because he sued every person he possibly could for everything they were worth. Theres a long story to why we're not friends anymore so I wont go into detail, just know that these are the kind of people I absolutely despise, and the whole experience has allowed me to know when I meet "disabled" people, whether or not they actually have an issue, or they're trying to play on my pity.
Don't treat physically disabled people any differently, and see how they react. Many don't want to be treated the same, they just want to coast on pity for the rest of their lives.


So because your friend became an unpleasant and possibly immoral person, you now think that there are lots of disabled people who want to "coast on pity for the rest of their lives"? I'm a physically disabled myself, and pity might be the thing I hate the most. I've done disability advocacy before and because of that, I've met many people with a variety of disabilities. I've yet to meet one like your friend. I'm sure they are out there, but I've never met any and I'm not one either. The only people I've known like that are people who weren't disabled but preferred to play the part (literally dressing up with braces and crutches and so on).

Everybody reacts to things differently. When people suddenly become disabled, it's normal for a lot of people to take it badly. And even if you've been disabled all your life (like I have), sometimes things are just too much. People almost always fail to really comprehend the depth of suffering that others experience. Having a serious, permanent disability isn't something you can fully appreciate unless you have one yourself.

I'm not trying to excuse the negative behavior of anyone, but it seems like a number of people in this thread have had unfortunate experiences with some disabled people and now want to make generalizations. Please don't do that.
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descloud wrote:

I was told I was autistic in high school by my guidance counselor. Now I am attempting to get into an intermediate algebra(MAT-114) completed world literature lv 2(ENG-200/B+) and have two A's in intro to PHI(105) and PHI-ethics(105) all done in College. All without ever visiting a tutor.

Sometimes I think people get told they have disabilities simple because people like me would refuse to do anything in school.

So I agree, it's not a good excuse for not trying.


Since when does autism mean you're an academic failure?
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descloud wrote:

I was told I was autistic in high school by my guidance counselor. Now I am attempting to get into an intermediate algebra(MAT-114) completed world literature lv 2(ENG-200/B+) and have two A's in intro to PHI(105) and PHI-ethics(105) all done in College. All without ever visiting a tutor.

Sometimes I think people get told they have disabilities simple because people like me would refuse to do anything in school.

So I agree, it's not a good excuse for not trying.


Since when does autism mean you're an academic failure?


Believe it or not, it's one of the two main autism stereotypes. Usually the thought process is autism=mental illness and mental illness=stupid.

The other one is autism=Rain Man.

Since most of the autism spectrum mostly affects social interaction, there really isn't any reason to expect someone to get better or worse grades just because of it. The only exception in the really severe kind, but I'm sure descloud doesn't have that.
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TrickedMJ wrote:

I'm not talking like, "Oh I want you to do this for me because I have broken legs and can't do it myself" crutch. I'm talking these disabled people who use their predicament as an excuse to be a bitch and what not and tell you you can't hit them or do anything else because of the "Things I'm going through."

I personally dislike anyone who tries to play those type of cards.


have you ever had a disability? if not then you need to stfu
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Posted 11/19/15 , edited 11/19/15

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TrickedMJ wrote:

I'm not talking like, "Oh I want you to do this for me because I have broken legs and can't do it myself" crutch. I'm talking these disabled people who use their predicament as an excuse to be a bitch and what not and tell you you can't hit them or do anything else because of the "Things I'm going through."

I personally dislike anyone who tries to play those type of cards.


have you ever had a disability? if not then you need to stfu


A learning disability, ADHD, but of course that pales in comparison to other disabilities. Why can't you learn to not be a crybaby bitch on the internet? Silly you.
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Being disabled myself (Cerebral Palsy -- Can't talk, can't walk, can only use my right hand), I loathe and have no respect for people who use their disabilities and/or pasts as a crutch or excuse. "Wah wah wah! Life is hard!" Yeah. So? Life is hard for us all. That's no excuse for you to be an ass or try to play the victim card! Get over yourself
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Posted 11/19/15 , edited 11/19/15
I'm sorry if my example offends anyone and I apologise to anyone who has been through a similar thing.

But I knew a girl in high school whose mum died in a terrible accident when she was 14. Of course, it was heartbreaking and we all supported her as best we could. But years and years down the line she would still bring it up during every single conversation. We weren't allowed to say or mention anything about our own families or anything that could possibly be linked to it. We also had to be careful what we said about bathrooms because that's where her mum tripped and fell. She basically got preferential treatment for years after, and every single conversation we had to be very careful about what we said.

Losing a parent especially in such a horrible way must be terrible. And yes, you would still feel depressed about it for years after. But my personal opinion is that girl in particular took it too far and used it for her own benefit. By the end of high school she had a mini gang of girl slaves looking after her and acting like her personal maids.
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I have to agree with you, eclair
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