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Posted 11/18/15
How much do you think it effects life values? (where these people gets threaded or used like trash)

also about food that will be short and gets less everyday.

and more?
Will this in future create outbreaks with wars to come?
then someone would say its "good" since it "solves" all the problems in one (think some generals in wars was saying that "often" this kills that and then gets 2 birds with 1 stone)

or should we just say... wasteland 4 XP



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Posted 11/18/15 , edited 11/18/15
and I forgot to say with all the Immigration and so little jobs and having no stable income, crimes, guns, deaths would increase wouldn't they?
also could how can we prevent everything to go worse and worse (like being lead into crimes, networks, ISIS etc) and for those with nearly nothing rebuild towns? secure and make a "restart"? or anything better to go for?
Posted 11/18/15
I see overpopulation leading to many things but 3 main ideas stick out. Mankind reaching out to the stars for a new home (which I think is silly in a sense for a reason)
Global war breaking out (which leads to massive destruction)
or the fun one. Depletion of natural resources and mankind's social structure and social order starts to break down and give way to chaos. (I guess the closest thing to wasteland/fallout minus the nuclear war)
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My mother was Chinese, and I can confirm that the Chinese are strict as hell about everything, and aren't afraid to execute people for stuff. I can also confirm that corruption is abundant in China, so rich successful criminals and corrupt officials are almost never executed. However, they don't execute people because of overpopulation, they just execute them for crimes we would consider felonies in America.

As for overpopulation, the solution doesn't have to be bloodshed, and the results don't have to be disastrous. China long had a 1 child policy, which had its dark side, but also had its best intentions. I think that simply producing less children is the solution to having too many people. If we have less people in the future, we won't have to condemn massive numbers of humans to mass extinction.

By the way, space travel is still long out of the question. We can barely travel to Mars as it is, and there is no way using today's technology to allow living humans to reach any of the closest habitable worlds. Take a look at the fact that Mars is in our solar system, and the closest habitable planets are all light years away. Perhaps eventually we can colonize other worlds, but we need to buy time, and we need to save Earth immediately.
Posted 11/18/15

bri-kun_kee-chan wrote:

I see overpopulation leading to many things but 3 main ideas stick out. Mankind reaching out to the stars for a new home (which I think is silly in a sense for a reason)
Global war breaking out (which leads to massive destruction)
or the fun one. Depletion of natural resources and mankind's social structure and social order starts to break down and give way to chaos. (I guess the closest thing to wasteland/fallout minus the nuclear war)


They all sound fun.
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Posted 11/18/15
Simple make humans immortal and infertile

we all profit.
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Posted 11/18/15

haikinka wrote:


bri-kun_kee-chan wrote:

I see overpopulation leading to many things but 3 main ideas stick out. Mankind reaching out to the stars for a new home (which I think is silly in a sense for a reason)
Global war breaking out (which leads to massive destruction)
or the fun one. Depletion of natural resources and mankind's social structure and social order starts to break down and give way to chaos. (I guess the closest thing to wasteland/fallout minus the nuclear war)


They all sound fun.


And they all sound plausible, and can occur simultaneously.
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Posted 11/18/15
If people start dying because overpopulation it'll eventually get to the point where we're not overpopulated anymore.
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I suspect that overpopulation will be "solved" by exploiting resources more efficiently. Earth is at only a tiny fraction of the population it should be able to support. I imagine it's possible to build space stations capable of supporting life. Just a matter of mining the universe to build those and routinely migrating outwards.

It would be incredibly disappointing if we went with the lazy sterilization option.
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Posted 11/18/15

QuietlyLoud wrote:

If people start dying because overpopulation it'll eventually get to the point where we're not overpopulated anymore.
thats.. not how things work but yes people will start dying because of it more and more into the future.

Even though they try to bomb ISIS, there is still bigger and more dangerous threats, still ISIS is making everything just harder for everyone.
Damn how much will all this ISIS cost? bombs, fuel, buildings, and more?
And some of it could have been used for other things?

Moving to other planets will most likely be very pricy and I guess the rich will transport first, then more of the others.



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@Freddy96NO, I would hate the idea of colonizing other planets, for many reasons. One, we can not easily get people to other planets, the amount of time needed to create a functional environment there would take far too long for anyone to really benefit until a new generation emerged, the most effective method would not even solve the population problem as it is robots growing humans on those planets. Further the amount of resources needed to make those ships would be insane, and the thousands of proletariat workers that would make the ships would clearly destroy the government, or most likely corporate dictatorship that will soon emerge, because why would they waste their lives to give the uber rich a space ship? Also how would this really help, I mean it just makes clear the problems with a natalist society, we invest resources into people who rarely are a return investment, when we do this in a particularly harsh environments, like lets say on another planet that may require gene splicing for our bodies to cope, we realize that the creation of human life is not consensual and inherently immoral, because rather than the delusion that abortion is murder, we realize that the creation of life creates the possibility of death, thus the creation of life is murder.

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Thus I suggest we are preemptive and start teaching anti natalist philosophy in school, naturally this will not prevent population growth but will help curb it, also we should make permanent birth control free, like vasectomy even offering an investment return to people that have one. This would be particularly good since in addition to helping lower the population, these people might adopt in their future, and naturally since unwanted children in countries use this system would be declining, countries that do not use it would also benefit since their youth are being adopted.
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Posted 11/18/15
We need to control the population. We can pretend all we want that we can always do things to accommodate, but I don't think that illusion will hold forever. It's best to deal with this by taking preventative measures unless we want to keep doing what we're doing until we can't pretend there's no problem anymore. By then, the solutions will be nearly as ugly as the actual problem and it's best not to get to that point.

You don't want the problem to be solved by letting people die who can't get what they need. You don't want the problem to be solved by sending people to war after realizing there are too many people. You don't want the problem to be solved by depleting the planet and being driven by necessity to seek a new and habitable place.
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Posted 11/18/15

Here you go.
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Posted 11/18/15
I'm almost tempted to side with Chris Packham. Almost.
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