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Florida boy, 9, threatened with sexual harassment charges for writing love note
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Posted 11/19/15
This is both sad and hilarious.
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Basically, unless the girl in question is a complete stranger, wrestles you with all her might and it's done somewhere like an alleyway, you will probably get away with it. "no" doesn't mean no anymore. it's sickening.


Girl listing. If you or I are drunk and decide to have sex while being drunk. You and I are still consenting. Just because you or I didn't like having sex with somebody, doesn't mean that you or I get to pull the rape card. Because even when drunk you are still capable of saying NO. Unless you or I say no and the person still do, isn't rape. Is simply, you did something that you wouldn't done while being sober.

I agree that if sex is just bad or not enjoyable, if you said yes then you gave your consent. So that isn't rape. It's just not very enjoyable sex. But if you're drunk then you don't really know what you're doing, and if the guy knows you are drunk he is taking advantage.
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cind of disagree and agree to the post.
Really depends and could be a hard case.
If she let her self weak and knew something could happend (and was awake and all that) then she could have done something to prevent further action but if he was then didn't let her "go" then he could be the one to blame for this.

But if both knew something could happend (or that if I drink more I could do something stupid) then both could be in the wrong.
also girls shouldn't think its "safe" to drink either. (depends what I mean by safe)

and about the topic was this not a week ago?




well it is quite a difficult area. It does depend on the case and the individuals involved. You would need more information about those specific circumstances.

But I've noticed a worrying trend of "oh, she was wearing a short skirt and she went to a party? Well, she brought it on herself then"
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I honestly don't see that anywhere in the US, you should probably check your sources there over the pond. I see people get convicted even if the girls consent here. I've seen guys get setup by a girl where he was drunk and she's not, but she says that he raped her and fucks his life up.


Of course it can occasionally work the other way. There probably are cases where someone gets convicted and they didn't commit a crime at all. After all, it's decided by a judge and a a jury and every single person is a little bit biased in some way. But I have noticed in general women are just not being taken seriously anymore.
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Taking advantage of somebody isn't rape. Is being asshole but isn't rape. You need to say No in a clear manner. I seen guys be really drunk but they still know right from wrong. Unless you are a bad drunk, most people are still capable of consent. And I have seen bad nightmarish drunk people. But most drunk people are still capable of consent.
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No, actually, Josie raped Jake as well. Didn't you see? Jake was drunk and could not consent. They should clearly both be put on trial. /sarcasm

Go back to tumblr and regurgitate your ill-informed misandry over there.


It depends on the individual case. We would need more information about those circumstances to know whether it really was rape or not. The poster is just an example to try and make men think a bit more.

And tumblr? Why would I be on tumblr? From what I can tell it's just full of GIF images.
Posted 11/19/15

KarenAraragi wrote:





Taking advantage of somebody isn't rape. Is being asshole but isn't rape. You need to say No in a clear manner. I seen guys be really drunk but they still know right from wrong. Unless you are a bad drunk, most people are still capable of consent. And I have seen bad nightmarish drunk people. But most drunk people are still capable of consent.

I played this scenario in my head but all I can tell is phrase your words carefully. Taking advantage of someone is a bit misleading or whatnot. Too many negative connotations.
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Taking advantage of somebody isn't rape. Is being asshole but isn't rape. You need to say No in a clear manner. I seen guys be really drunk but they still know right from wrong. Unless you are a bad drunk, most people are still capable of consent. And I have seen bad nightmarish drunk people. But most drunk people are still capable of consent.



Taking advantage of someone IS rape. See, this is why there is a problem. Nobody seems to even know or understand what constitutes rape anymore.

Interesting though how it's all the guys who are arguing with me though. Hmm...
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I've never seen such a nice kid who actually has reasons to like someone. "I like your eyes because they sparkle like diamonds." beautiful. That girl who was disturbed should grow up. Most nine-year-olds I know, unfortunately, aren't still in the "boy cooties" stage of their lives, she must've not been exposed to people who actually admire her.
Posted 11/19/15


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Taking advantage of somebody isn't rape. Is being asshole but isn't rape. You need to say No in a clear manner. I seen guys be really drunk but they still know right from wrong. Unless you are a bad drunk, most people are still capable of consent. And I have seen bad nightmarish drunk people. But most drunk people are still capable of consent.



Taking advantage of someone IS rape. See, this is why there is a problem. Nobody seems to even know or understand what constitutes rape anymore.

Interesting though how it's all the guys who are arguing with me though. Hmm...


For all you know I could have a vagina. First I no arguing for guys or girls. You put yourself in a state where you are more vulnerable to suggestion. Your still responsibility for your actions. Even if somebody is taking advantage of your drunk state, if you say yes, isn't rape. You are still capable of saying NO.

Maybe this mean shit to you but the fact that you use My physical gender in that last comment, has excuse to say that. Made me lose respect for you. Because there a lot of shit I can say about females but I would not go there. Since I have more respect for myself, I would no dignified that comment you say with argument.
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For all you know I could have a vagina. First I no arguing for guys or girls. You put yourself in a state where you are more vulnerable to suggestion. Your still responsibility for your actions. Even if somebody is taking advantage of your drunk state, if you say yes, isn't rape. You are still capable of saying NO.

Maybe this mean shit to you but the fact that you use My physical gender in that last comment, has excuse to say that. Made me lose respect for you. Because there a lot of shit I can say about females but I would not go there. Since I have more respect for myself, I would no dignified that comment you say with argument.




Well you do have an M on your profile so unless you are lying about your gender, I doubt you have a vagina.

I agree that women shouldn't put themselves in such a dangerous situation. I myself don't drink alcohol at all and I definitely wouldn't if I was at a party. But if women do make that mistake they shouldn't be punished for it to such an extent.

There are certain situation where even if they didn't outright say "NO!" it could still be rape. For example, a girl could feel a bit uneasy and say "i'm not really sure if I want to" and the guy takes that pretty much as a yes. Also, a girl could be given more alcohol then she thought she was drinking, or drugged. Well if she's unconscious then she definitely can't say no. But of course having sex with anyone who is unconscious is rape.
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While having sex with someone unconscious or who has shown signs associated drinking heavily is clearly rape, what about lapse in judgement? We hold drunk drivers to be responsible for those they kill or their own deaths, but why not hold people to the same standard of being responsible for their own sexual behavior? You can't take away consent after the fact, and consent is ongoing. Haven't been able to find where the law stands on this, bit too lazy and hard.
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The failure that is the American education system in action. And also, modern hypersensitivity, being forced upon CHILDREN. Like nine year olds have sexual intent or something? It's just a pedestrian kiddie crush, despite widespread belief that kids of the opposite sex hate each other at that age, most of them have crushes of some sort, some time. Jesus, talk about an ovvereaction.

I'm going to resort to a rather stupid fallacy, but COME ON, IF A FEMALE STUDENT DID THIS THEY WOULDN'T BE TRYING TO PRESS CHARGES.

The fact that modern social justice tripe and modern "me me me!!!!" men hating and men bashing feminism is leaking into an educational environment disturbs me. It really does. These are kids. They are hardly more hypersexualized than they were fifty years ago, they're not going around screwing each other senseless, they're underdeveloped kids, who thinks that they'd have ANY kind of sexual intent. They're KIDS!!! KIDS!!! CHILDREN!!! Innocent and young children!!!
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Posted 11/19/15
First thing I thought when I saw this topic was "Florida Man has a sidekick?"
People always flip out over the smallest things these days.
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