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I wouldn't be surprised if it was decreasing to be honest. The rise of atheism/non-religiousness is something that's relatively unnoticed.
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Freddy96NO wrote:

I want to ask of you if you have read just some of the quran.


I have. There are indeed parts within it that advocate for the use of violence and other deplorable acts. There are also similar parts within the Old Testament/Torah. Take for example...



Are Jews and Christians at risk of being radicalized? Do you think that the majority of them believe in stoning people to death? I'd wager that you don't. Few assume that the majority of Jews and Christians are extremists or that they're at constant risk of beginning to believe in the practice of it. But for some reason, it's acceptable to make these claims about Muslims. Isn't that a double standard?

Karl Marx, founder of Marxism, called for the abolition of religion. Do you think all Marxists are at constant risk of beginning to seek an atheist state?

As I stated before, any idea can lead one to become a radical. Any ideology or belief can corrupt or twist a person into committing horrible acts. That doesn't mean that everyone who follows that belief practice is going to believe in all parts of it though. Not everyone is a fundamentalist, and those who aren't likely have resolved themselves not to become one.

Islam as a whole is NOT the problem. The problem lies with fundamentalism and radical, extremist thought. I'm sure that stopping the production and selling of milk would eliminate the risk of it turning sour. However, there are much easier paths and precautions to undergo in order to combat that risk -- paths which don't require extremes such as eliminating milk as a whole. Paths like... drinking it and...

Alright, that was a shitty analogy. You get my point though.
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Freddy96NO wrote:

Would love a link to what she said about refugees that support or think meeh about ISIS, and now after alot she seems to go more and more crazy about it.



Driven out of homes partly by ISIS... Thinks meh or even supports them. Wut?
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Freddy96NO wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote: VZ68 posts that bait picture again.
what picture?.. oh mama!
but yeah I am maybe not saying much about why, only that its more a wider spreaded problem going all up to nearly america but they have their black vs white things still -__-

but this religion of THEIRS (not all muslims) is becoming a bad influnces on young people and values.



Which one? I have a few.



This one works for most threads though.

but this thread....

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.. but muslims saying that is for peace and the whole book is right (and some they follow half way for bad intetions)

most of the christian stuff is so old and more or less outdated, maybe some places you can find smaller amounts of this.
and there is many bad things this is creating for everyone.

but yeah the wars and stuff that is comming down in Africa and asian to korean is going to much worse.

I think it was some talk about another million bloodbath going to happend agian down in africa.


Buckerss wrote: Driven out of homes partly by ISIS... Thinks meh or even supports them. Wut?
well what she said in the video, that some would support ISIS and that I would like to know more about where she got that from..
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Posted 11/21/15 , edited 11/22/15
Before this turns into an Islam vs Christianity flame war, let's take a look at what religious authorities have to say on the matter.

On the Christian side, here's a guy a lot of people liked, Pope John Paul II



And on the Islamic side, here's the Prophet Muhammad himself.



Glad that's cleared up.
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Islam is from a culture that never evolves. None of the muslim majority countries got freedom and democracy. All they do is screw up. They are fundamentally against American and western values. That's why I believe all 'refugees' should be sent back like Donald Trump said.

After 911, the number of Jewish and Christian terrorist attacks is zero, but the number of muslim terrorist attacks is over 26 thousand. I support a ban on the Koran, the burqua, mosques, etc. Even that liberal Bill Maher said Islam is against American values. The whole religion of Islam is a threat to us, and it has to stop.
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There is no doubt that it is a religion that is very strict and very out dated, as far as them living in western countries.
It is a religion that prevents assimilation.
This cannot be denied.

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Freddy96NO wrote:

but muslims saying that is for peace and the whole book is right (and some they follow half way for bad intetions)


So do fundamentalists of all stripes... rarely have they read their sacred book for themselves though.

The Muslims who say the book is entirely right aren't necessarily educated as to its full contents. They could simply have been raised into a household and taught to believe it -- never having looked at it themselves and fully made a decision about what they believe and what they don't. Some fundamentalist Christians and Jews think that way too. They'll insist on being 100% literal with their holy books and dismiss anyone who does otherwise as "cherry-picking" whilst ignoring or not practicing certain parts. The problem with this mindset lies in its inherent extremism, encouragement to commit acts of violence, and in the fact that it ignores contradictions within the sacred texts.


most of the christian stuff is so old and more or less outdated, maybe some places you can find smaller amounts of this.
and there is many bad things this is creating for everyone.


Doesn't change the fact that the Old Testament/Torah call for stoning various people to death. In fact, a literalist, fundamentalist interpretation of one of the quotes I linked would require you to kill around billions of people at the least.


Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day shall be put to death.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+31%3A15&version=ESV


but yeah the wars and stuff that is comming down in Africa and asian to korean is going to much worse.

I think it was some talk about another million bloodbath going to happend agian down in africa.


Christian terrorism exists today. Take for example groups like The Lord's Resistance Army or The Army of God. It's less prominent and large in size than radicalism in the Middle East (which is typically Islamic due to it being the majority religion of the region), of course, but I wasn't meaning to state or imply that it wasn't. I apologize if anything I said gave off the impression.
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Better solution...




Also.... due to its significant relevance to this thread...

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Nalaniel wrote:

I wish all religions (except for some oriental peace-loving ones) could be banned. It has only caused trouble for humanity and me.


Honestly I think the world would be just fine without religion in general.
Posted 11/21/15
I think any Abrahamic religion should be practiced with caution. I don't know if decreasing the amount of followers is gonna help but I remember reading somewhere that the extremest who conduct terrorist acts tend to be young, so maybe the youth should be looked at and helped since I think they're more susceptible to extremest acts.
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