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Posted 11/23/15 , edited 11/24/15

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I despise children, to put it mildly. I only like the quiet, calm children that don't demand anything. I have no interest in passing down my genes or continuing the bloodline or any of that stuff. What's the use. I'll be dead in the future and won't see how my bloodline branches out. I feel like having a kid is a huge responsibility, one that I'd rather do without since it's not even guaranteed to be a good investment. A dog, at least, is probably going to have a better chance of being beneficial to you directly than a kid. The dog dies in about a decade and doesn't ask much of you as its master. A kid stays with you for way longer and demands much more. I value my autonomy in life and my freedom to do as I please without being weighed down by unnecessary responsibilities.

I've never wanted to have kids and nothing has ever gotten me to consider changing my mind. Maybe I'll change when I get older and get into another relationship or something but I don't even want to be married, let alone have kids. I'm told this is a selfish way of thinking but, in the grand scheme of things, I don't believe I'll be harming anyone by not wanting to have a kid. The laws are the furthest thing from my mind.

Even if someone has a very intense conversation with me and I can't offer any decent rebuttals against their position that it's best to have a kid, I still won't have a kid. I just don't see how not having a kid is bad unless most people are choosing not to reproduce. I'm fine with being an evolutionary dead end. I'm not investing so much in life for something after I die.


It's like you reached into my mind, pulled out my opinion on children and put it into perfect sentences.
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i like having time and money

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Posted 11/23/15
I don't want kids.

Earth is to overpopulated the only reason i will ever have kids is for my own selfish desires.

biological immortality may be possible in my lifetime (scientists are saying so atleast and exponential growth would agree) otherwise i think ill have a customized child via genetic manipulation to have an Aspergers child with my DNA.

Then i can teach the little guy about the world and how to help it and nurture it while i'm gone then it's up to him how he goes about it.

That being said if i have a child without Aspergers Syndrome ..chances are i won't relate to him and will end up preferring the Aspergers child i have over them....it's sad but biologically it makes sense a neurotypical person is more likely to love there neurotypical child more then there Autistic child.

It's a horrible thing to admit but hey you can't help how you feel about these kinds of things that being said i would still love a neurotypical child although probably not as much.

But yeah the only reason i would have children is if we don't reach immortality ......my descendants are my Plan B
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Magical-Soul wrote:


dotsforlife wrote:

Nothing wrong with not wanting a kid. I know several women who don't. All perfectly capable of handling it both as a parent and from a financial standpoint. Just no interest in it. Can't blame them either. I have no interest in kids, much less raising one. I'll never understand why everyone seems to pressure others into this issue. Not that everyone does mind you, but there is certainly this mindset that as a woman you better be reproducing otherwise there's something wrong with you.

If you want them, good for you. If not, good for you. Don't see why people care either way honestly. I see more unfit people having kids than the other way around. In the end it's personal choice and people shouldn't give a shit either way. My mother used to hound me about that shit in my twenties. No thanks.


You forgot the explanation part, *pokes your nose*

Care to try again? We all understand why a man wouldn't wanna have children.


The thing is, gender doesn't have that much to do with it. As much as we might like to draw our lines and seperate genders into their own stereotypes, deep down people aren't really all that different and a woman's reasons for not wanting children will probably mirror the reasons that most men have for not wanting them.

Thing is when you talk about having kids, you're talking about dedicating a lot of time, money, and effort into rearing that child to be the best he or she can be. You're taking at least 18 years of your life and probably even more than that and putting it into a little person that you're entirely responsible for. To put it one way, you have on your profile that you're 19, now think back to your entire lifetime that you've had so far and imagine having to deal with a child for that entire period.

Having a kid is a big decision that changes your entire life, some people don't like that idea and just want to live the best lives they can on their own without worrying about little Johnny/Susie's grades or who they're hanging out with.

My aunt and uncle are a couple decades past the babymaking age and they've always done perfectly well together. You don't have to have a child to be happy and there isn't anything wrong with not wanting one.
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Holy flying fuck, this was painful to get through, and if you're not trolling like I so, so hope you are, then wow... All I can do is just laugh at how insane you are.


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Even babies from rape, the women still loves them wholeheartedly and doesn't regret their existence. I don't understand how they can claim to not want something they've never had.


"Even babies from rape"... You almost had me stop right there.

Anyway, I've never had herpes, but I know I don't want it. I don't know why you feel like every woman's purpose in life is to churn out babies like their womb is some factory, but that has to be one of the most dated views I've seen on these forums to date. And if your friend didn't want to give you a reason as to why she didn't want children, then that's her right. You claimed that there was no discussion then if she wasn't willing to give you a reason, but that wasn't even what she was asking of you in the first place. She was asking for advice on how to get her mother to stop pressuring her, and, instead, you ended up doing the very same thing she wanted her mother to stop doing. way to be an asshole.

Just because someone is capable of having children doesn't mean that they should just drop everything they're doing and have them. Some people hate those whiny, crying sacks of poop, and I can understand why. I'd hate to be responsible for something so annoying that it wouldn't even let me sleep. If a woman just wants to live with their partner, without a baby to steal away their peaceful lives, then I don't see why she shouldn't be allowed to, without other self-righteous women shitting on them and telling them they're "stupid broads" for living their lives as they want.

God-fucking-damn, I've never read something so incredibly stupid. So, nice trolling, because I refuse to believe anyone can be this stupid.
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Posted 11/23/15
It's incredibly rude to question why a woman doesn't want kids. It's a personal choice and you have to respect that.
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Oh, please! Seriously, why you care so much about if that woman (or any other woman) don't want to have kids or why they think like that way? What is your problem? It's nothing of your business and your life won't be affected in the slightest just because some some women are not interested in havieng descendants. Do you are eager to have own kids? Good for you, but that doesn't give you the right to decide that all women must desire to be mothers. No one has the obligation to justify their choice of not having children to you, either.

Also, could you explain what is the real purpose behind this thread? Wait that appear any woman who don't want kids and anyone who dare to defend their decision so you can proceed to attack them like you did to the woman in your story? Because judging by all what you've said here, I doubt very much that any reason provided would be good enough for you.
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Some people would rather prioritize their own lives. Being a good parent is a huge sacrifice. It's better to not have kid's than to neglect kids you do have.
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Magical-Soul wrote:

This chick in one of my Skype groups was talking about children:

Let me stop here to address this, she was talking about CHILDREN, the best things ever in all of existence. Better than cool sound tracks, cookies, ice cream, porn, sex or even better than anime. I'll go as far as to say they're better than your girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband! It always boggles my mind when women say they don't want kids.

WHAT?! How can you NOT want kids?! Who has rewritten your brain?! That's the most important job of any species! Having a child is like giving humanity an extra life!.... Wait, it is explicitly an extra life.

So I was talking with this woman, she was saying how she's being pressured by her mother to have kids, but she doesn't want any.




"How do I get her to stop? I don't wanna make her upset."

Me: "Well, why don't you wanna have kids?"

"Does it matter? I don't."

Me: "So there's not even a discussion here...? Just no you don't and everyone should just respect it?"

"Yeah, that's how freedom works, right? Do you explain why you're doing everything you do?"

Me: "I'm not talking about everything you do, I was just asking why you don't want children."

"Because I don't? I said that the first time."

(Got kinda pissed off here)

Me: "I heard you. I'm asking WHY you don't want kids. Not if you want them, I was going to see if I could reinforce your notion or tell you why you might wanna reconsider."

"It doesn't matter why, not everyone wants to a mother and deal with children."

Me: "There, was that so hard? You don't wanna deal with them, that gives me something to work with at least."


After that, everyone else jumped into the argument and basically took "sides" of the thing. It left me wondering why a woman just wouldn't wanna deal with kids she's never had? Why would a woman not want kids in the first place? That's almost unfathomable.

This girl is in the same position as me, she's well off, she has tons of dough to just drop, she has stable career that she likes, she isn't in debt, she has no financial woes whatsoever, she has a boyfriend "wouldn't mind" kids.

So why isn't this broad pumping out children like a factory already when her mother is pushing her to do so? I have no idea.

I can understand men not wanting kids, I can understand that completely. But women? What! Lol?!?!?!?!?!?!

I know some women say they don't want kids -- they end up getting pregnant and they do a 180 and say they love their children to death and don't regret having them around. Even babies from rape, the women still loves them wholeheartedly and doesn't regret their existence. I don't understand how they can claim to not want something they've never had.

If there's any women on here who can actually articulate a logical reason as to why they do not want kids, I'd appreciate it. People can regret children or not want them if they don't have their life together or have a lover. I get that. But when you have buckets of cash and you live with your boyfriend. How can you not say "Nah, I don't want them. Just don't" Women in stable households with children are probably far happier than women in stable households without children. I don't even care to look up this data, I just have a gut feeling.

If you don't want kids because you don't have a good environment to raise them in, I get that.

But much like our subject, what if she has it made? Wealth, stability and a lover? What else is next step? Eventually all their cruising and vacationing is gonna get dull. Stupid broads these days...



I read /r/childfree often on reddit, it's a good source to see guys and girls on their reasons for not wanting kids. You should check it out. A lot has to do with the money, stress, and sacrifices made in raising one. People are happy being together, and they can do all sorts, have more money, and if you added a kid, a lot of that would be reduced, they would make less money, while spending more. This is the general consensus I gotten from that subreddit anyway.

Others might have a more deeper ingrained thing in their mind, such as they had a bad upbringing so doubt themselves if they would be a good parent because of it, so wouldn't want to put a kid through the same thing.
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Some people choose to never work a job and some people choose to never have children. The reason is always that they're just slightly more pathetic than a normal person when it comes to the responsibilities of a full life, but I suppose it should be tolerated.
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DanteVSTheWorld wrote:


Magical-Soul wrote:

This chick in one of my Skype groups was talking about children:

Let me stop here to address this, she was talking about CHILDREN, the best things ever in all of existence. Better than cool sound tracks, cookies, ice cream, porn, sex or even better than anime. I'll go as far as to say they're better than your girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband! It always boggles my mind when women say they don't want kids.

WHAT?! How can you NOT want kids?! Who has rewritten your brain?! That's the most important job of any species! Having a child is like giving humanity an extra life!.... Wait, it is explicitly an extra life.

So I was talking with this woman, she was saying how she's being pressured by her mother to have kids, but she doesn't want any.




"How do I get her to stop? I don't wanna make her upset."

Me: "Well, why don't you wanna have kids?"

"Does it matter? I don't."

Me: "So there's not even a discussion here...? Just no you don't and everyone should just respect it?"

"Yeah, that's how freedom works, right? Do you explain why you're doing everything you do?"

Me: "I'm not talking about everything you do, I was just asking why you don't want children."

"Because I don't? I said that the first time."

(Got kinda pissed off here)

Me: "I heard you. I'm asking WHY you don't want kids. Not if you want them, I was going to see if I could reinforce your notion or tell you why you might wanna reconsider."

"It doesn't matter why, not everyone wants to a mother and deal with children."

Me: "There, was that so hard? You don't wanna deal with them, that gives me something to work with at least."


After that, everyone else jumped into the argument and basically took "sides" of the thing. It left me wondering why a woman just wouldn't wanna deal with kids she's never had? Why would a woman not want kids in the first place? That's almost unfathomable.

This girl is in the same position as me, she's well off, she has tons of dough to just drop, she has stable career that she likes, she isn't in debt, she has no financial woes whatsoever, she has a boyfriend "wouldn't mind" kids.

So why isn't this broad pumping out children like a factory already when her mother is pushing her to do so? I have no idea.

I can understand men not wanting kids, I can understand that completely. But women? What! Lol?!?!?!?!?!?!

I know some women say they don't want kids -- they end up getting pregnant and they do a 180 and say they love their children to death and don't regret having them around. Even babies from rape, the women still loves them wholeheartedly and doesn't regret their existence. I don't understand how they can claim to not want something they've never had.

If there's any women on here who can actually articulate a logical reason as to why they do not want kids, I'd appreciate it. People can regret children or not want them if they don't have their life together or have a lover. I get that. But when you have buckets of cash and you live with your boyfriend. How can you not say "Nah, I don't want them. Just don't" Women in stable households with children are probably far happier than women in stable households without children. I don't even care to look up this data, I just have a gut feeling.

If you don't want kids because you don't have a good environment to raise them in, I get that.

But much like our subject, what if she has it made? Wealth, stability and a lover? What else is next step? Eventually all their cruising and vacationing is gonna get dull. Stupid broads these days...



I read /r/childfree often on reddit, it's a good source to see guys and girls on their reasons for not wanting kids. You should check it out. A lot has to do with the money, stress, and sacrifices made in raising one. People are happy being together, and they can do all sorts, have more money, and if you added a kid, a lot of that would be reduced, they would make less money, while spending more. This is the general consensus I gotten from that subreddit anyway.

Others might have a more deeper ingrained thing in their mind, such as they had a bad upbringing so doubt themselves if they would be a good parent because of it, so wouldn't want to put a kid through the same thing.


None of that applies to the type of women we are talking about.

Money, stress and sacrifices would make a good point, but I'll repeat the parts you misunderstood/skipped.

I wanted (mainly women) to explain why they wouldn't want kids when their lives are perfect for it. Much like our subject, they have mountains of disposable income(vacations like 4 times a year), has pretty much everything there is to have in life.

They're not in education, they only have mildly demanding careers, and they already met the "love of their life". Our subject is simply doing s*** like going to Hawaii and posting pictures from Cozumel Mexico on her Facebook talking about how swell her life is.

This broad is 20 and has it made. She has everything.

But children.

If she was in her mid to late 30's or older, I would understand not wanting kids for health reasons. But 20?! LOL! That's in her peak fertility range, if she doesn't want kids at 20, she sure as hell won't want them at 30-40, so I wanted to get things out on the table to discuss the how's and whys of her opinion on children.

Than there's the: "I just don't want them."

WTF? Seriously?
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then she asks:
"WHY DO YOU WANT KIDS?!"
"it hurts, ruins this and that also so much to take care of and not all mothers should be mothers,
takes time and much more"

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If this woman doesn't want to have kids, then leave her alone.
It's her life. I think she should get to choose. Does she really need a valid reason to why she doesn't want kids?
Who cares.


You missed the entire point of this topic. It was not specifically about this woman, but women like her who don't want children even though their lives are perfect for it. I heard enough "Because I/they don't" from her, no reason to repeat it, Ms. thestars >.>


I don't think I'm in the we that you're speaking of there. Can you please enlighten me on why it is understandable for a man to not have children? (ow=")


You're probably not in that portion that doesn't want kids, but there are two kinds of mating strategies for men. One of them involves pumping and dumping lots of women and not actually helping in child care/rearing. This isn't possible today because the government will hunt down those men.


I don't really get why you're referring to any woman who doesn't want kids as a stupid broad, I didn't realize that you had a final say in other people's lives. If this particular girl doesn't want a child than thats her choice don't go in trying to change her mind or anyone else's for that matter.


Any woman who's life is perfectly capable of supporting children and she "just doesn't" want them for no particular reason. Only those women.

Also, I can't even attempt to change her mind? Lol, communism?


I don't see a problem with not wanting kids.

I know a few people who have been married awhile and have no children and have no plans on ever having any, its a choice that someone has the right to. A child is a big responsibility and I see why some people would not want to take that on.


Chances are those couples met whenever they were already old and wrinkly and are not around our subject's age, which is 20. But the responsibility is pointless when you are well over "financially stable" she is. But at least you gave a reason. Thanks!


Wow. Just.. wow.
As if you were in the position to decide that.
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Reading some of these responses only makes me cringe. I fear for the children should some of you have any if they inherit your way of thinking. Should get that head out of the sand.
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All I can say is I am getting major Anzn vibes from this chick. Different person obviously... but they act the same in a debate. Their way or the highway.
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