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Posted 11/23/15 , edited 11/23/15

Kid2daKrazx wrote:

Can someone explain the fascination with Lolitas to me?

I mean, I like cute things too but it gets creepy when guys start to y'know..."like" like them, y'know.

I mean, where's the line on liking lolitas?


No line.

I will like my lolitas.

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Wellll.... To be strictly direct to the one who has created the topic the easy answer is: there is no short excuse for loli complex being different from pedophilia. It started as so and is marked by it in every media and country. The problem is that Loli is primarly something that has invaded japanese culture since they are machist and misoginistic in some ways. Other way of explaining it and in a less-likely feminist over the top way is to see how marriage and human relations have faded away lately in Japan. So this fascination, which is a sick behaviour in some (all, but most) standards, can bee seen as an escapism over reality. This usually has to do with envoiremental conditions or socio-historic factors. This means, in pratical ways, well, that people who do not receive love are more likely to try to seek love where there is no human being related. And actually this behaviour is strictly associated of what we call addiction. Think it is like drugs. When you do not have any alternatives to escape a sad reality, you are islolated from human contact and other things you WILL start to seek things that will fade your sorrow and lonely and love less life.
If you want to see it just search ME ME ME on youtube. I know an excellent video which proves loneliness to associated with drug addiction. Just give me time to search it. I think the video was on cracked. Hope I have helped ya on your quest for a helpful and decent answer.



there is no short excuse for loli complex being different from pedophilia.


Most people who are into lolicon arn't pedophiles though you will find.



Yep, that's true. But what was my point is that it was more like escapism, but Lolicon on the original term, as in which it is presented in the inconic Vladímir Nabokov Novel , is absolutly pedophilia. As I said: escapism and cartoons do not usually match with it, but there are necessities for people in Japan to relate to the Moe Aesthetics. But, yeah, there is only some pointo in which we can classify it as pedophilia a.k.a if it is related to real 12-13 years old. And aside from that it's purely a fetiche (don't konow how to spell thos word in English). Sorry.
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T1mered wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


T1mered wrote:

Wellll.... To be strictly direct to the one who has created the topic the easy answer is: there is no short excuse for loli complex being different from pedophilia. It started as so and is marked by it in every media and country. The problem is that Loli is primarly something that has invaded japanese culture since they are machist and misoginistic in some ways. Other way of explaining it and in a less-likely feminist over the top way is to see how marriage and human relations have faded away lately in Japan. So this fascination, which is a sick behaviour in some (all, but most) standards, can bee seen as an escapism over reality. This usually has to do with envoiremental conditions or socio-historic factors. This means, in pratical ways, well, that people who do not receive love are more likely to try to seek love where there is no human being related. And actually this behaviour is strictly associated of what we call addiction. Think it is like drugs. When you do not have any alternatives to escape a sad reality, you are islolated from human contact and other things you WILL start to seek things that will fade your sorrow and lonely and love less life.
If you want to see it just search ME ME ME on youtube. I know an excellent video which proves loneliness to associated with drug addiction. Just give me time to search it. I think the video was on cracked. Hope I have helped ya on your quest for a helpful and decent answer.



there is no short excuse for loli complex being different from pedophilia.


Most people who are into lolicon arn't pedophiles though you will find.



Yep, that's true. But what was my point is that it was more like escapism, but Lolicon on the original term, as in which it is presented in the inconic Vladímir Nabokov Novel , is absolutly pedophilia. As I said: escapism and cartoons do not usually match with it, but there are necessities for people in Japan to relate to the Moe Aesthetics. But, yeah, there is only some pointo in which we can classify it as pedophilia a.k.a if it is related to real 12-13 years old. And aside from that it's purely a fetiche (don't konow how to spell thos word in English). Sorry.



Oh yeah and i agree there.
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I agree with PrinceJudar, the innocence factor gets a lot of people off.
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Nabokov………he used to play for San Jose, right?
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Its from a russian novel about a father in law wanting to nail his step daughter. Havent read the book so i dont know what all the fuss is about


More than that, if I recall correctly (I have read the book, but it's been a while), he's infatuated with the girl first, then marries her mother especially to get access to the girl.

(And as someone else mentioned, in the book she's 12; a lot of people are more familiar with the movie based on the book where they changed the age of the girl to be 15 or 16.)


You mean this ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita


That's the one. The article states " Its assimilation into popular culture is such that the name "Lolita" is now often used to describe a sexually precocious girl" but it should be acknowledged (as also stated in that article) that it's told from an unreliable narrator point of view, and that the seductive intents and motives of the "nymphets" that Humbert is obsessed with are pretty much his spin on things colored by his pedophilic desire.
Posted 11/23/15 , edited 11/23/15
I think this article should answer some questions.

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/pharrell-williamss-lolicon-girl
Posted 11/23/15 , edited 11/23/15

Kid2daKrazx wrote:

so...

elephant in the room time.

How is lolita fascination different from pedophilia?


Fiction dude. Also let say I have fetish for being a slave. Just because I like the roleplaying of being a slave, doesn't mean I want to be a slave. Just because I enjoy watching people die in a game, doesn't mean I will enjoy the same situation in real life. Also believe or not, I have seen girls who are 20 something and look like they are 10. Also pedophilia only applies in real situation and if the say individual is.

Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger.


Including other reason you kind need to meet before legitimately being call a pedophile. A least legally and medically. Also while is call a disorder. Most people with pedophilia don't have anything wrong with them if you compared their brains to ours. Meaning they want to make it seeing like a medical problem that one day may be fix, because they don't want to face the reality that some people are normal in the head and like kids that way. But regardless fiction and reality are 2 different beings. Just because you are into something fictitiously, doesn't mean in reality you want to do it or will enjoy it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

If you are curious about the subject, I suggest you go to medical sites and no news site about it. Since a doctor is more trustworthy than the interpretation of somebody talking about the subject after all.
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I, for one, welcome our new loli overlords.
Posted 11/23/15 , edited 11/23/15

T1mered wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


T1mered wrote:

Wellll.... To be strictly direct to the one who has created the topic the easy answer is: there is no short excuse for loli complex being different from pedophilia. It started as so and is marked by it in every media and country. The problem is that Loli is primarly something that has invaded japanese culture since they are machist and misoginistic in some ways. Other way of explaining it and in a less-likely feminist over the top way is to see how marriage and human relations have faded away lately in Japan. So this fascination, which is a sick behaviour in some (all, but most) standards, can bee seen as an escapism over reality. This usually has to do with envoiremental conditions or socio-historic factors. This means, in pratical ways, well, that people who do not receive love are more likely to try to seek love where there is no human being related. And actually this behaviour is strictly associated of what we call addiction. Think it is like drugs. When you do not have any alternatives to escape a sad reality, you are islolated from human contact and other things you WILL start to seek things that will fade your sorrow and lonely and love less life.
If you want to see it just search ME ME ME on youtube. I know an excellent video which proves loneliness to associated with drug addiction. Just give me time to search it. I think the video was on cracked. Hope I have helped ya on your quest for a helpful and decent answer.



there is no short excuse for loli complex being different from pedophilia.


Most people who are into lolicon arn't pedophiles though you will find.



Yep, that's true. But what was my point is that it was more like escapism, but Lolicon on the original term, as in which it is presented in the inconic Vladímir Nabokov Novel , is absolutly pedophilia. As I said: escapism and cartoons do not usually match with it, but there are necessities for people in Japan to relate to the Moe Aesthetics. But, yeah, there is only some pointo in which we can classify it as pedophilia a.k.a if it is related to real 12-13 years old. And aside from that it's purely a fetiche (don't konow how to spell thos word in English). Sorry.


Correction. If say child is prepubescent , usually in the 11 years or younger to be specific. Once hit puberty, pedophilia no longer applies. Medically legally a least.
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Excellent article BTW
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Correction. If say child is prepubescent , usually in the 11 years or younger to be specific. Once hit puberty, pedophilia no longer applies. Medically legally a least.


Not where I live. If you aren't 18 and someone who is 18 or over and has sexual relations with you you may be classified as pedophile, but I see your pint. Even though I think it's really creepy to put an teenager as legally responsible for sexual acts of some old geezer (worst case scenario) So this thing that says someone who is eleven years old and has puberty over his body can not be harraseed by someone who has pedophilia intended is really creepy in my conceptions, but okay.

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I like imoutos because they're so cute! I wish I had even more imoutos like Nalaniel or HuastecoOtaku to play with! Yay imoutos!


I worry about you man :(
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Including other reason you kind need to meet before legitimately being call a pedophile. A least legally and medically. Also while is call a disorder. Most people with pedophilia don't have anything wrong with them if you compared their brains to ours. Meaning they want to make it seeing like a medical problem that one day may be fix, because they don't want to face the reality that some people are normal in the head and like kids that way. But regardless fiction and reality are 2 different beings. Just because you are into something fictitiously, doesn't mean in reality you want to do it or will enjoy it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

If you are curious about the subject, I suggest you go to medical sites and no news site about it. Since a doctor is more trustworthy than the interpretation of somebody talking about the subject after all.


Well..I really can't agree in terms of human rights or social correctness there with you and recalling the aspect that rape was normal in Greece wouldn't make it easier to accept it now. I do not know, but even if it is not supossedly a mental problem he is out of the curve anyways. Sorry, but I can't accept this kind of objetification over such a really delicate and tricky subject.
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For when all of you want to start taking your Lolita complex to the next level - http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/16/chinese-child-sex-doll_n_4286730.html
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