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I'm sure he is. I have some friends in the army (and a cousin) and none of them I would mark as a malicious person. In fact, they're some of the most decent and upstanding people I've met; and that's saying something, as I don't particularly think very highly of people in general.
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You're looking at this from a black-and-white perspective. You don't have to support the military-industrial complex and warmongering to respect veterans. And furthermore, you've yet to provide the evidence I asked for -- the basis for your claims about soldiers in general using it as an excuse to enact violence on others or resorting to it because they aren't intelligent enough to succeed in society.

There are countless different motivations and factors which go into someone joining the military. It isn't a simple decision that you make overnight. You might be raised into a military family and pressured into doing it, you might be incredibly patriotic and nationalistic, you might sign up for the cause or perceived cause of the military, you might be misinformed about the reasons for going to war, you might legitimately believe that the war is a necessary evil, etc. It isn't as simple as, "All soldiers are marauding rapists and murderers who support every action that their nation takes and believe in every war that they fight for," and if you think it is than perhaps your view of reality simply isn't nuanced enough. The troops who go to war aren't generic bad guys. They're people with lives, families, ideals, friends, careers, etc. And you know what happened to those things? They got ripped away from them.

Perhaps they were foolish to volunteer in the first place. That doesn't change anything though. We all make mistakes. It's called being a human being.

Supporting Troops /=/ Supporting War

As for why you should respect veterans and soldiers, there are numerous different reasons for such. I can't say why you'd respect them, but I can say why others would.


Regardless of what we want to believe, war is sometimes a necessary evil. I agree that it's often waged unjustly, too quickly, and selfishly in our imperialistic endeavor to play world police, but there are circumstances under which we have to rely on it as a last resort. If an opposing nation invades us then we need an organized force to protect us, if a nation threatens to commit genocide against an entire group of people then we may very well need to respond with force, etc. Sometimes we have to resort to violence in order to stop violence -- that's simply the way the world is. We don't live in an ideal world and we never will. Thus, we need people to serve in the military.



It's undeniable that it takes at least some degree of courage to risk one's life in the battlefield. While there is no glory in war, there is glory in being willing to stand up for what you believe in -- even if what you believe in isn't always right.



Soldiers may choose to fight for a nation, but they don't get to choose what battles that nation wages. Their bravery is used against them and others by selfish/misguided governments and politicians.




And so on. If we tried to analyze and dissect every single possible reason why an individual supports the troops of their nation(s), we'd be here for a while.
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The troops who go to war aren't generic bad guys. They're people with lives, families, ideals, friends, careers, etc. And you know what happened to those things? They got ripped away from them.


Can't you say that about the other side? The people who defend their own soil? They die, too. But when a white guy goes out to a country misinformed about what he's fighting for, he's a hero. And yet all those people being bombed and killed for defending themselves and their country are looked at as enemies. Give me a break.
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Perhaps some people should not stop taking their meds

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The signs of mania with bipolar disorder include:

Disconnected and very fast (racing) thoughts
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Inappropriate elation or euphoria
Inappropriate irritability
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Increased talking speed or volume
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A decreased need for sleep due to high energy
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Can't you say that about the other side? The people who defend their own soil? They die, too. But when a white guy goes out to a country misinformed about what he's fighting for, he's a hero. And yet all those people being bombed and killed for defending themselves and their country are looked at as enemies. Give me a break.


I never said you couldn't, nor did I say that you shouldn't.
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hum1d wrote:

Can't you say that about the other side? The people who defend their own soil? They die, too. But when a white guy goes out to a country misinformed about what he's fighting for, he's a hero. And yet all those people being bombed and killed for defending themselves and their country are looked at as enemies. Give me a break.


I never said you couldn't, nor did I say that you shouldn't.


Those men that die, that lose their careers and friends- that was completely their choice. They're grown ass men. - They went through boot camp training, wear bullet proof vests, have guns and grenades at the ready. The people that die in Afghanistan and Iraq fight because they have to; they don't get a choice. Women and children die everyday, but rarely anyone seems to acknowledge that.

Honestly, whatever. Think what you want to think. I've said my piece; I'm done talking about this.
Posted 11/29/15 , edited 11/29/15
okay then

i am low energy type of person so there's absolutely no way i'd be doing most of that.
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okay then

i am low energy type of person so there's absolutely no way i'd be doing most of that.


right?



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Posted 11/29/15

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Pendrick wrote:

okay then

i am low energy type of person so there's absolutely no way i'd be doing most of that.


right?



that's why cabbages are the way to go



aye
Posted 11/29/15

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Ouch, well. I respect the servicemen and their dedication, but fuck that attitude. I've met service members who were high and mighty. You say you don't play games like that, but some do. They talk behind others backs, bend truths to make people look bad, then explode when confronted about it. Nasty way of interacting with others.


I didn't mean to insult you, my Company Sergeant Major always said I sucked ass at explaining anything more complicated then long range marksmanship. Though I suppose I can't deny some take the privilege of the uniform to some pretty harsh extremes. But ya have to understand some people adjust a little to well to the harshness of a battlefield. They tend to think the rest of life should be treated as such. And in war everything fair game after all.


man, i wish i can join the army, but im weak & slow & clumsy, i would get my teammates killed more than be of any help. Respect to you.
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man, i wish i can join the army, but im weak & slow & clumsy, i would get my teammates killed more than be of any help. Respect to you.


A little training can go a long way, you'd be surprised at the shape of some of the recruits I saw. A few months later and they looked every inch the soldier. But thank you for the compliment.
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1: more self consious
2:really shy
3: having there atention in though and physcially (like them talking to you and etc.) makes me happy they are paying atention to me when it matters
4: always wanting to do what they want to do i feel like if there happyness is mine..
5: just wanting to spend time with them.

yes im like a god damn cuddly puppy -.- it bugs me sometimes why i get like that
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im also good friends with a person from the army. i recall he was in east couple times. wanted to be air force. but got stuck with soldier work. he is pretty laid back for army. but from his storys he has been through hell.. then most can imagine
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