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Just kill yourself. No reason to live in a post apocalyptic wasteland
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I'm level 47 in Fallout 4, I think I can survive.
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I'm level 47 in Fallout 4, I think I can survive.


Only 47, damn I work a split shift, spend three hours a day working out, go to the target range three times a week and I am already level 60...Yes I have no social life.
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furytime wrote:

I'm level 47 in Fallout 4, I think I can survive.


Only 47, damn I work a split shift, spend three hours a day working out, go to the target range three times a week and I am already level 60...Yes I have no social life.


That's hard to believe
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Ranwolf wrote:


furytime wrote:

I'm level 47 in Fallout 4, I think I can survive.


Only 47, damn I work a split shift, spend three hours a day working out, go to the target range three times a week and I am already level 60...Yes I have no social life.


That's hard to believe


I get by on like five hours of sleep, haven't need any more then that. The few times I've gotten more I feel like crap when I wake up.
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Shoot anything and everything that moves. Except spiders. Kill those bastards with fire...


10/10 roaches too
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100% Survival rate to those who doesnt die
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Depends on the kind of apocalypse too. Survival is completely different between, say, nuclear holocaust, or economic collapse, or a powerful solar storm.

It also depends on what environment you live in, or plan to live in. Like I live in Central Texas, there is just not a lot of rainfall most years, so water would be a major issue here in a survival situation, as well as growing food, because again, water. It is also, you know, hot in the summer, so you have to learn to deal with all of that.

Another words there is a lot of variables you have to look at, whether you have family to take care of or just you, whether you team up or go solo, whether civilization is being rebuilt or it is basically Walking Dead styled very few people left in the world, etc.



^ Going solo is only going to get you killed in the long run. It's the first thing the Army teaches is the value of teamwork. It doesn't matter the situation if you ain't got a good team behind you the only fate you have in store is death eventually. As for learning to deal with harsh environments unless there is a nuclear war ala Fallout a simple relocation will usually suffice, especially on the European and North American, and South American Continents were terrain and weather can change drastically within a few hundred kilometres . And wandering is slowly going to become pointless. Some kind of rebuilding is going to have to occur for any long term survival situation to happen. And I rather think people overplay the difficulty of rebuilding a semblance of society. I mean our ancestors tied a rock to a stick and created fire with no previous knowledge on how to do such things and that eventually lead us to the technological dominant society we live in now. And unlike the cavemen we wouldn't be starting from square one.


Yeah, people think solo works cause movies and games depict that sorta thing, but lets be honest, that isn't how the world works. If it did we humans wouldn't always be coming together in groups, following chiefs, kings, presidents, etc.

I mean think of the jobs you have to do everyday in a survival situation. Water. Unless you are by clean running water, and even then, you usually want to boil it or sanitize it in other ways, so you have to collect water, if you boil it, also collect the wood, start the fire, properly boil it, etc.

Now food. Forage for food, hunt for food, supplies you already have like canned goods and such, etc. Some of that food needs to be prepared with, again, fire.

Shelter. Thousand and one things to do there and constant maintance. Now do that every day. By yourself that gets to be a pain in the ass. What happens if you slip and fall and injure yourself, break a bone, get really sick? You neglect those jobs, and suddenly your chances of survival start to slip away.

And that is just a few things you do everyday. If you have a garden you are growing for food, raising animals, all of that just compounds the problem further for one human being to do all of that in a finite amount of time everyday, while also getting sleep.

You need the help of others, just won't work otherwise, not long term anyways.

And yeah, you can just migrate somewhere else, but it also depends if you know any basic geography of where a good place to migrate to would be.
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Yeah, people think solo works cause movies and games depict that sorta thing, but lets be honest, that isn't how the world works. If it did we humans wouldn't always be coming together in groups, following chiefs, kings, presidents, etc.

I mean think of the jobs you have to do everyday in a survival situation. Water. Unless you are by clean running water, and even then, you usually want to boil it or sanitize it in other ways, so you have to collect water, if you boil it, also collect the wood, start the fire, properly boil it, etc.

Now food. Forage for food, hunt for food, supplies you already have like canned goods and such, etc. Some of that food needs to be prepared with, again, fire.

Shelter. Thousand and one things to do there and constant maintance. Now do that every day. By yourself that gets to be a pain in the ass. What happens if you slip and fall and injure yourself, break a bone, get really sick? You neglect those jobs, and suddenly your chances of survival start to slip away.

And that is just a few things you do everyday. If you have a garden you are growing for food, raising animals, all of that just compounds the problem further for one human being to do all of that in a finite amount of time everyday, while also getting sleep.

You need the help of others, just won't work otherwise, not long term anyways.

And yeah, you can just migrate somewhere else, but it also depends if you know any basic geography of where a good place to migrate to would be.


Maybe but basic geography is something we all learn in elementary school. And even putting that aside it's not rocket science. North = cold, South=warm, Coastlines = cooler summers and milder winters with better rainfall and longer growing seasons. Not to mention the scavenging would be better near coastlines as the biggest cities are built near large bodies of waters and the oceans. Bigger cities mean better chances of finding supplies like pre-packaged food, raw building materials, and more advanced medical supplies. Though a downside to this is competition would be much stiffer given this is all basic knowledge. And humans aren't always known for coming together in times of crises and whatnot.
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I'd survive. My charisma would make me a good negotiator and my status as an adolescent could potentially garner some sympathy from groups of survivors. Thereby, I'd have the chance of being accepted into a group of people who actually know what the fuck they're doing in combat-scenarios.
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I'd survive. My charisma would make me a good negotiator and my status as an adolescent could potentially garner some sympathy from groups of survivors. Thereby, I'd have the chance of being accepted into a group of people who actually know what the fuck they're doing in combat-scenarios.


Meh I've seen more then my share of people your age carrying rifles and shooting back at people. In a survival situation most groups would only be interested in the skills you could offer..Diplomacy would likely be a largely unnecessary skill until society stabilizes itself and communication between groups becomes just as important as being able to shoot straight and keep yourself fed.
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Meh I've seen more then my share of people your age carrying rifles and shooting back at people. In a survival situation most groups would only be interested in the skills you could offer..Diplomacy would likely be a largely unnecessary skill until society stabilizes itself and communication between groups becomes just as important as being able to shoot straight and keep yourself fed.


Eh, I don't know. Groups may very well come to share a mutual desire of trade rather early on. Constantly and consistently risking your life against foes with just as much (if not more) combat training than you is a very risky scenario. Once most of the weak have been thinned out, it's likely that groups would seek to trade in order to avoid the risk of death that comes with raiding for ammunition, food, water, etc.

If nothing more, I could try to bullshit someone into wasting resources on me and skedaddle before they realize what a leech I am. There's gotta be someone out there who's stupid enough to fall for it and, by nature of probability, there's always a chance of me running into them instead of the roving band of murderous, psychotic cannibals.
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Ranwolf wrote:

Meh I've seen more then my share of people your age carrying rifles and shooting back at people. In a survival situation most groups would only be interested in the skills you could offer..Diplomacy would likely be a largely unnecessary skill until society stabilizes itself and communication between groups becomes just as important as being able to shoot straight and keep yourself fed.


Eh, I don't know. Groups may very well come to share a mutual desire of trade rather early on. Constantly and consistently risking your life against foes with just as much (if not more) combat training than you is a very risky scenario. Once most of the weak have been thinned out, it's likely that groups would seek to trade in order to avoid the risk of death that comes with raiding for ammunition, food, water, etc.

If nothing more, I could try to bullshit someone into wasting resources on me and skedaddle before they realize what a leech I am. There's gotta be someone out there who's stupid enough to fall for it and, by nature of probability, there's always a chance of me running into them instead of the roving band of murderous, psychotic cannibals.



The only people in this day and age who have any combat training and experience are currently serving military, ex military, or retired military. We wouldn't really being spending too much time shooting at each other, especially if we all happen to be NATO or UN types. We are just to used to working together and that wouldn't change with the end of the world as it were. We'd likely band together quite naturally and work towards the betterment of the group. After all we are already of that mindset, it's the reason we joined our country's armed forces to begin with. Most civilians on the other hand lack the specialized training we do, the mindset of working for the group rather then self gain, or indeed possession of any serious fire-power.

Honestly I think anyone who isn't military or has been military when apocalypse shows up will be seriously boned .It'll come down to skills and usefulness. And the fact you may have been a top player in Corporate will be of little worth to a group of soldiers looking to survive the end of the world.
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The only people in this day and age who have any combat training and experience are currently serving military, ex military, or retired military. We wouldn't really being spending too much time shooting at each other, especially if we all happen to be NATO or UN types. We are just to used to working together and that wouldn't change with the end of the world as it were. We'd likely band together quite naturally and work towards the betterment of the group. After all we are already of that mindset, it's the reason we joined our country's armed forces to begin with. Most civilians on the other hand lack the specialized training we do, the mindset of working for the group rather then self gain, or indeed possession of any serious fire-power.

Honestly I think anyone who isn't military or has been military when apocalypse shows up will be seriously boned .It'll come down to skills and usefulness. And the fact you may have been a top player in Corporate will be of little worth to a group of soldiers looking to survive the end of the world.


Then a society would quickly form. Soldiers and veterans would group together and, with a group-mindset, would inevitably end up developing something akin to a community. Members of the group would contribute and enter certain roles in order to increase the chance of survival. Thus, an early community would develop. With that, however, would likely come a greater importance in non-combat roles. If you have a large abundance of skilled combatants then security, gathering food, and other tasks which involve some degree of experience with a firearm/weapon will be easily taken care of. Demand for less combat-oriented roles will then rise (as per the law of supply and demand) -- roles such as doctors, architects, farmers, and other careers coveted by this new society. Then when that quota is fulfilled, a demand for more roles will arise from that. The early society will begin to evolve into something resembling a new nation.

The focus, intentionally or not, will shift from surviving to rebuilding. Shooting and fighting will become less important because fellow servicemen/servicewomen will be cooperative with one another. So unless a third-party is a threat in this apocalypse (aliens, monsters, wildlife, and what not), there will be legitimately no reason for shooting and fighting to be in such high demand. Why would it when there's so little to danger to you? Civilians won't be able to threaten you and, if they could, then the civilians themselves likely will have attained combat experience at that point through adaptation to their new environment and the need to survive. That means that civilians will likely band together -- unexperienced in combat at first, and experienced later.

Also, soldiers wouldn't be the only ones with experience in combat. They'd undeniably be the most skilled in that role, but there are other groups of people who possess that skill to a lesser degree. Police, hunters, and even people who simply practice marksmanship for sport could all be considered experienced with a firearm -- at least to a degree.

The only way I could see a 100% guaranteed death for people without combat experience or combat-oriented skills is if the proto-society decided to massacre civilians for shits and giggles. And if that happened then you can bet that this heavily-militaristic group would have slowed the progress to rebuilding civilization down immensely for no gain whatsoever. There goes agriculture, shelter, medicine, technology, philosophy, history, currency, religion, and an overwhelming chunk of all of humanity's advances in the past years. Enjoy living in ruins in a primitive society for thousands of years.

But yeah,
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Then a society would quickly form. Soldiers and veterans would group together and, with a group-mindset, would inevitably end up developing something akin to a community. Members of the group would contribute and enter certain roles in order to increase the chance of survival. Thus, an early community would develop. With that, however, would likely come a greater importance in non-combat roles. If you have a large abundance of skilled combatants then security, gathering food, and other tasks which involve some degree of experience with a firearm/weapon will be easily taken care of. Demand for less combat-oriented roles will then rise (as per the law of supply and demand) -- roles such as doctors, architects, farmers, and other careers coveted by this new society. Then when that quota is fulfilled, a demand for more roles will arise from that. The early society will begin to evolve into something resembling a new nation.

The focus, intentionally or not, will shift from surviving to rebuilding. Shooting and fighting will become less important because fellow servicemen/servicewomen will be cooperative with one another. So unless a third-party is a threat in this apocalypse (aliens, monsters, wildlife, and what not), there will be legitimately no reason for shooting and fighting to be in such high demand. Why would it when there's so little to danger to you? Civilians won't be able to threaten you and, if they could, then the civilians themselves likely will have attained combat experience at that point through adaptation to their new environment and the need to survive. That means that civilians will likely band together -- unexperienced in combat at first, and experienced later.

Also, soldiers wouldn't be the only ones with experience in combat. They'd undeniably be the most skilled in that role, but there are other groups of people who possess that skill to a lesser degree. Police, hunters, and even people who simply practice marksmanship for sport could all be considered experienced with a firearm -- at least to a degree.

The only way I could see a 100% guaranteed death for people without combat experience or combat-oriented skills is if the proto-society decided to massacre civilians for shits and giggles. And if that happened then you can bet that this heavily-militaristic group would have slowed the progress to rebuilding civilization down immensely for no gain whatsoever. There goes agriculture, shelter, medicine, technology, philosophy, history, currency, religion, and an overwhelming chunk of all of humanity's advances in the past years. Enjoy living in ruins in a primitive society for thousands of years.

But yeah,


These are very good points and I highly agree with them but take a look at the vast majority of what civilians are doing these days. They flip burgers, sell cars, work other retail jobs, and other numerous jobs that are in the end useless once the lights go out so to speak. I mean these jobs have skill sets that serve no practical use in let's be fair in a time that will be a dog eat dog period. Yeah eventually some semblance of order is going to be established, the sort of chain of command soldiers are use to if nothing else. But till then only the useful skills civilians have mastered will matter. Engineers, Architects,Mechanics, and Machinists in particular will likely be highly prized in the rebuilding process, then farmers for obvious reasons and Doctors as well. Soldiers do receive high level medical training, but most of it is trauma care and not the specialized fields of medicine like surgery and disease treatment.

And well I am not about to discount the value of religion in keeping up moral I doubt the matters of philosophy will matter much for a very long time. Worrying about the whys,hows, and whats of society at large will be in my mind a waste of time in a period where your next meal will come from is more important . As for currency, I doubt it will be anything more complicated then a bartering and trade system. Currency only works in a modern society such as ours, so bankers and investment skills sets will be worse then useless. Ditto for history, I am a fan of history. But even though I consider it a duty to learn it I still think the here and now in such a situation would be more important then anything else history would have to teach. At least until society is truly rebuilt.

Given all that I still believe a rather large chunk of the civilian population wouldn't survive an apocalypse
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