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Posted 11/30/15
Be a good person who no one thanks or even hates or be a bad person who everyone loves and admires?

Watching One Punch Man, it reminds me of Glaucon's retelling of the myth "the ring" of Gyges, where a man gains the titular ring, allowing him to become invisible at will. Using this, he steals everyone's ideas and become renown for being intelligent, before killing the king and seducing the queen and being loved by all."

Then there's the Spiderman alternative, where you become a hero of justice but no one knows who you are.


So which do you think is better? Discuss.
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Posted 11/30/15
Second one. I don't like being in the spotlight of things but the first choice would just become plain boring.
Posted 11/30/15
bad and good as in doing good as in what charity work ,feeding poor families etc and being bad but admired bad as in what murderous killer bad or just an obnoxious bad person .
Posted 11/30/15
There's absolutely nothing to gain from the first one other than self-gratification.
Posted 11/30/15 , edited 11/30/15
whats the point of number2 what do you get out of love and admiration does the admiration of others some how shape you do the opnions ofothers matter if yours is right. what if their all wrong and your hated and called a monster does it matter. or if they all love and admire you does it matter . whats important is that you know your right. i can see how those things matter if your weak but if your strong they shouldnt matter . The mountain does not tremble at the speech of ants even if an army of them lied at its feet.


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Posted 11/30/15
Be a good person who no one thanks or even hates.

I just want to be a good person!!!!!!!
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Posted 11/30/15
first one.

i cant see myself as a bad person.

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Posted 11/30/15 , edited 11/30/15
First one, easy.

There are tons of people who are good people that are ignored by the public. It's been said that it's funny how much good we can do when we stop caring about getting credit...
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Posted 11/30/15 , edited 11/30/15
Interesting.

First. I don't need the gratification of others and so long as one person loves me I don't give a fuck. If by being bad you mean harming other people, that's the type of shit I couldn't live with. The second type of person wouldn't be loved because people would simply love the person he isn't. I know how that is and it's about as fulfilling as an empty plastic cup.

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Posted 11/30/15
LOVE & PEACE
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Posted 11/30/15

PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Be a good person who no one thanks or even hates or be a bad person who everyone loves and admires?

Watching One Punch Man, .


Oh, just saw that episode. Saitama beats the monster with one hit (as usual) then proclaims the monster was weakened by the others, so he could get kill shot. Then the civilians call him a cheater.

Would that make him



A beater ?


Posted 11/30/15

Reiter01 wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Be a good person who no one thanks or even hates or be a bad person who everyone loves and admires?

Watching One Punch Man, .


Oh, just saw that episode. Saitama beats the monster with one hit (as usual) then proclaims the monster was weakened by the others, so he could get kill shot. Then the civilians call him a cheater.

Would that make him



A beater ?




No, he's a hero. Meanwhile, Kirito tortured someone and refused to use his full capacity till several people died. He had his reasons, but they weren't the most morally lovable actions to most. But of course that rapist/pedophile deserves to feel the pain of being cleaved in half! Rorschachs, all of you.
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Posted 11/30/15

PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Be a good person who no one thanks or even hates .


This one, there are too many people of the second type.

Posted 11/30/15

shinblade wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Be a good person who no one thanks or even hates .


This one, there are too many people of the second type.



Such as certain politicians? Christopher Hitchens believed that Mother Teresa, while well meaning, was more along this line due to the apparent abuses.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:






No, he's a hero. Meanwhile, Kirito tortured someone and refused to use his full capacity till several people died. He had his reasons, but they weren't the most morally lovable actions to most. But of course that rapist/pedophile deserves to feel the pain of being cleaved in half! Rorschachs, all of you.


Yeah, you missed the part where the plot was basically the ending of episode 2 in SAO and the picture had a bald guy in it that saves the day, but decides to become the bad guy. Batman: The Dark knight predates both SAO and One-Punch where the hero becomes the bad guy trope even though it was for a good cause (Saitama is seen as the bad guy in the view of the public cause he seems to cheat, even if he did it for a good reason...much like Batman and Kirito)
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Correct, politicians, organizations, etc. I specially hate the "let's gather millions of dollars to cure this type of disease" thing. Most of the world's worst diseases can be cured with less than 15 bucks in a single course or even free when consuming the right insects.

So, they are pretty skilled at hiding things from us and getting praised for it "oh, they are so cool, so much research and time went into it". *sigh*

Don't get me started with religion and "social" movements.

Sorry if I'm a bit bitter, I also saw the One Punch man episode, and it just hit too close to home comparing that situation with things in real life.
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