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Posted 11/30/15

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No, he's a hero. Meanwhile, Kirito tortured someone and refused to use his full capacity till several people died. He had his reasons, but they weren't the most morally lovable actions to most. But of course that rapist/pedophile deserves to feel the pain of being cleaved in half! Rorschachs, all of you.


Yeah, you missed the part where the plot was basically the ending of episode 2 in SAO and the picture had a bald guy in it that saves the day, but decides to become the bad guy. Batman: The Dark knight predates both SAO and One-Punch where the hero becomes the guy trope even though it was for a good cause (Saitama is seen as the bad guy in the view of the public cause he seems to cheat, even if he did it for a good reason...much like Batman and Kirito)

Ah, I was talking about his "duel" with the rapist and then his waiting till the last minute to use starburst stream. Was just ranting, but taking all the blame for being a beater....yeah, that's is like what Saitama did.
Posted 11/30/15

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Correct, politicians, organizations, etc. I specially hate the "let's gather millions of dollars to cure this type of disease" thing. Most of the world's worst diseases can be cured with less than 15 bucks in a single course or even free when consuming the right insects.

So, they are pretty skilled at hiding things from us and getting praised for it "oh, they are so cool, so much research and time went into it". *sigh*

Don't get me started with religion and "social" movements.

Sorry if I'm a bit bitter, I also saw the One Punch man episode, and it just hit too close to home comparing that situation with things in real life.


Sorry, we recently went over Glaucon vs Socrates in one of my classes, which brings up the situation of Gyges, where Glaucon argue it would be better to be villainous but viewed as a hero and that only a small amount of fools would choose Socrates way of being the unthanked hero.
Posted 11/30/15
I'd rather be 'good' b/c karma is a bitch. Wanting everyone to like you while screwing them over behind their back seems too much work, anyway.
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Posted 11/30/15 , edited 11/30/15


No need to be sorry, this is a good topic. Concerning modern society, I think the Glaucon thing is a bit spot on; there is just too much "cult of personality" attitude, and very little humility. Also, a lot of "I'm always right because I quote sources" attitude, instead of thinking for one self. There are many "facts" that have been modified and tampered with, it's specially easy in this digital age, to fit certain agendas.

Back to the case of something that has been used to cure many cases of Cancer, Aids, Diabetes, etc., if you look it up in "respectable sources", it will be listed as industrial bleach and deadly. Psshhh, there's no money in actually healing people, who's going to buy the meds and expensive proceedures then?

To sum things up a bit more, it's easier to be 'praised by the Man' than 'raging against the machine'. Although there are people quite skilled at making you think you are 'raging', when in fact you are doing exactly what they want. You really need good instinct and intuition imo.
Posted 11/30/15
The former, as long as I was true to my own nature (self) thanks, admiration approval of others, or even hatred matters very little if even at all.
Posted 11/30/15
1st. seems like you're helping horrible people if they can't even recognize you for the good you do for them. fuck 'em.

2nd. might as well. you can just laugh at them for loving you.
Posted 11/30/15
The first. The second reeks of publicity, paparazzi, and unwanted socialization, in general. Blah!
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Posted 11/30/15
If you're doing good just to be thanked, you're not being a hero. If you're loved for doing bad things, you're succeeding in at least some of your goals.

I'll stick with being hated. I'm good at it.
Posted 11/30/15

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The first. The second reeks of publicity, paparazzi, and unwanted socialization, in general. Blah!


It doesn't have to be. I meant on a small scale around your friends, but you can take it to Lex Luthor level.
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Posted 11/30/15
What's the point of the second choice? Maybe's it's just because of my military past but I find being the undeserving villain as it were a far less desirable choice then being the deserving hero who goes thankless. Also only the most base of human beings need to be thanked for doing good. The right choices are ones a person should make regardless of the rewards or lack thereof.
Posted 11/30/15

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What's the point of the second choice? Maybe's it's just because of my military past but I find being the undeserving villain as it were a far less desirable choice then being the deserving hero who goes thankless. Also only the most base of human beings need to be thanked for doing good. The right choices are ones a person should make regardless of the rewards or lack thereof.


Glaucon argued all human are in it for self benefit or something, not sure.
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Posted 11/30/15 , edited 11/30/15

PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Ranwolf wrote:

What's the point of the second choice? Maybe's it's just because of my military past but I find being the undeserving villain as it were a far less desirable choice then being the deserving hero who goes thankless. Also only the most base of human beings need to be thanked for doing good. The right choices are ones a person should make regardless of the rewards or lack thereof.


Glaucon argued all human are in it for self benefit or something, not sure.


Glaucon to the best of my knowledge merely commented that two men given equal power would eventually act in a similar and unjust way as it were regardless of their previous disposition. Then again I could be wrong, Greek Philosophy never interested me much.
Posted 11/30/15

Ranwolf wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Ranwolf wrote:

What's the point of the second choice? Maybe's it's just because of my military past but I find being the undeserving villain as it were a far less desirable choice then being the deserving hero who goes thankless. Also only the most base of human beings need to be thanked for doing good. The right choices are ones a person should make regardless of the rewards or lack thereof.


Glaucon argued all human are in it for self benefit or something, not sure.


Glaucon to the best of my knowledge merely commented that two men given equal power would eventually act in a similar and unjust way as it were regardless of their previous disposition. Then again I could be wrong, Greek Philosophy never interested me much.


Oh, so that's what he said. Thanks.
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Posted 11/30/15
I'd rather be a good person who is never thanked. If I needed to be thanked for every good thing I did, my life would be very stressful. I do good things because I want to.

If I were to be a bad person, it wouldn't matter that everyone else loved me - I'd probably dislike myself and lose my peace of mind.
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Posted 11/30/15
I'd rather be Spiderman.
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