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352 Mass Shootings - 2015
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Posted 12/2/15 , edited 12/4/15
http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2015 (link is iffy due to high traffic, refresh page if needed)

In the USA, there has been 352 mass shootings this year. Since opinions vary vastly on what can be done to "solve" this, I would like to hear what can be done to fix it.

There is no excuse America has to pardon this statistic. No matter where you go, mass shootings are not as common as they are in the USA. I personally think the ease of getting guns is to blame. Hell, I could go out, buy one and shoot up my Uni if I so wanted to (I don't, but it is too bloody easy to do that). I do think we need much, much more strict policies on who can buy guns. It is easier than getting a drivers license at this point. I also think people who own guns need much better training.

I guess I am spoiled when it comes to northern Europe and Germany. Much safer, people who own guns are better trained and have proper qualifications as well as a real background check. That and the idolization of guns doesn't exist. I mean... there have been very few shootings in Germany this year.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/08/world/europe/germany-faces-few-mass-shootings-amid-tough-gun-laws.html?_r=0
Seen here, Germany ranks 4th in guns owned. Yet some of lowest in mass shootings. Why? The gun culture does not exist there. Guns are not an end all. The laws are much, much more strict as well.

I guess I just wanted to rant. Tired of the mass shootings every day.
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Just fyi, mass shootings makes it sound like there's been Columbines for each of those. I'll point out that mass shooting is grouped by 4 or more when they use that term.
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Wait. You stricter gun laws will help bring down mass shootings? lol what

No person or organization(yes, that includes the government) can really control guns.

Owning and having guns are an inalienable right, under no circumstances can we choose rights for each person. No license is necessary. Etc. if you don't wanna get shot up, bring your own gun.
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Just fyi, mass shootings makes it sound like there's been Columbines for each of those. I'll point out that mass shooting is grouped by 4 or more when they use that term.


"Broadly speaking, the term refers to an incident involving multiple victims of gun violence, but there is no official set of criteria or definition for a mass shooting, according to criminology experts and FBI officials. Generally, there are three terms you'll see to describe a perpetrator of this type of gun violence: mass murderer, spree killer, or serial killer. The primary distinction between a mass murderer and a spree killer is that the latter strikes in multiple locations. A serial killer is distinguished by striking over a longer time frame."

Source: http://www.nationofchange.org/defining-mass-shooting-1345908412

So, they are all mass shootings by definition.
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Magical-Soul wrote:

Wait. You stricter gun laws will help bring down mass shootings? lol what
This is the original message. It was quickly changed after my comment.


Since you didn't answer the question stated and just tried a fail bait, let me ask the question so you can not dodge it. Since opinions vary vastly on what can be done to "solve" this, I would like to hear what can be done to fix it.

Read first, bait later please.
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Dark_Alma wrote:


Magical-Soul wrote:

Wait. You stricter gun laws will help bring down mass shootings? lol what


Since you didn't answer the question stated and just tried a fail bait, let me ask the question so you can not dodge it. Since opinions vary vastly on what can be done to "solve" this, I would like to hear what can be done to fix it.

Read first, bait later please.


Not answering your idiotic question = fail baiting.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

Maybe before writing your topic. You forgot bearing arms was the 2nd amendment. Good luck getting some poor sap to engage your insane asylum level topic.
Posted 12/2/15

Dark_Alma wrote:


Magical-Soul wrote:

Wait. You stricter gun laws will help bring down mass shootings? lol what


Since you didn't answer the question stated and just tried a fail bait, let me ask the question so you can not dodge it. Since opinions vary vastly on what can be done to "solve" this, I would like to hear what can be done to fix it.

Read first, bait later please.





Magical-Soul wrote:


Dark_Alma wrote:


Magical-Soul wrote:

Wait. You stricter gun laws will help bring down mass shootings? lol what


Since you didn't answer the question stated and just tried a fail bait, let me ask the question so you can not dodge it. Since opinions vary vastly on what can be done to "solve" this, I would like to hear what can be done to fix it.

Read first, bait later please.


Not answering your idiotic question = fail baiting.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

Maybe before writing your topic. You forgot bearing arms was the 2nd amendment. Good luck getting some poor sap to engage your insane asylum level topic.


C'mon, people. Love and peace.

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I live in Australia and I don't think we have many mass shootings. Not sure what USA's problem is.
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C'mon, people. Love and peace.



I would love to. When I make a discussion, I want serious talking. Not "LOL wut?" grade stuff. I am sadly don't like trolls who try to derail a thread =p
Posted 12/2/15

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C'mon, people. Love and peace.



I would love to. When I make a discussion, I want serious talking. Not "LOL wut?" grade stuff. I am sadly don't like trolls who try to derail a thread =p


It IS the internet, trolls are everywhere here. You just gotta ignore that stuff.
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Execute more criminals ...more swiftly, build and strengthen gutted commitment laws, don't import 100,000 Muslims (who cannot be vetted) at 67k a pop.
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I think most of us Americans gladly welcome foreign insight, or I do at any rate. Who's ready to learn?

To answer your question, if you look at the groups that largely promote the pro-gun movement they are primarily Right-wing Conservatives or Libertarians. Both are for government deregulation due to their perception of a corrupt government, which largely extends to the population, so that is why you see movements that are anti-regulation in regards to Gun policy. They also don't buy into regulation of guns meaning a decrease in crime because they would argue that the mass shooters would either still illegally acquire a weapon to commit the heinous crime, and that regulating it for things like keeping records, is a step towards taking guns - which has occurred before in history a few times.

Next, mass shootings, while certainly a topic the public briefly cares about - is not a topic they focus on. What dominates the news? Terrorism coverage. There are more Right Wing Conserative politicians who would enact legislature to regulate Islam than guns lol. Islamophobia is the main concern here, followed by a "corrupt" government because the mass public seems to misunderstand; it isn't the government or regulation, but the corporations that run the show through ALEC - most right wing conservatives would have you decentralize the government, yet it is the state legislature that, literally in thousands to hundreds ratio, passes legislation in this country. Most state congressman and senators running unopposed, and winning by default no matter how bat-shit crazy and uneducated they may be.



http://www.pewglobal.org/2015/07/14/climate-change-seen-as-top-global-threat/?beta=true&utm_expid=53098246-2.Lly4CFSVQG2lphsg-KopIg.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIMgfBZrrZ8
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Urboistar wrote:


Dark_Alma wrote:




C'mon, people. Love and peace.



I would love to. When I make a discussion, I want serious talking. Not "LOL wut?" grade stuff. I am sadly don't like trolls who try to derail a thread =p


It IS the internet, trolls are everywhere here. You just gotta ignore that stuff.


"Lol what" is necessary when you're saying: "You know, I think some of our rights should be restricted based on unsubstantiated evidence that I'll feel safer!"

And he focused on that as opposed to everything else I said because tone policing is more important than content nowadays. Thankfully in 1971 people weren't retarded and they knew they had to write the constitution specifically so post modern wrecks couldn't screw with it. Sigh...
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Urboistar wrote:


Dark_Alma wrote:




C'mon, people. Love and peace.



I would love to. When I make a discussion, I want serious talking. Not "LOL wut?" grade stuff. I am sadly don't like trolls who try to derail a thread =p


It IS the internet, trolls are everywhere here. You just gotta ignore that stuff.



Surely not here on CR.
People are more intelligent than that, right?
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I guess America is just the place where the most crazy loonies live.
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