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352 Mass Shootings - 2015
Posted 12/2/15

Animegirlzvstheworld wrote:


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Dark_Alma wrote:




C'mon, people. Love and peace.



I would love to. When I make a discussion, I want serious talking. Not "LOL wut?" grade stuff. I am sadly don't like trolls who try to derail a thread =p


It IS the internet, trolls are everywhere here. You just gotta ignore that stuff.



Surely not here on CR.
People are more intelligent than that, right?


I sure hope so. Though I also hope to hit the lotto jackpot.
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Posted 12/2/15

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I guess America is just the place where the most crazy loonies live.


They've got a huge population so I think it's sort of semi justified. United kingdom has a very large population though and we don't hear of many school shootings at least in the global media.
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Posted 12/2/15

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I think most of us Americans gladly welcome foreign insight, or I do at any rate. Who's ready to learn?

To answer your question, if you look at the groups that largely promote the pro-gun movement they are primarily Right-wing Conservatives or Libertarians. Both are for government deregulation due to their perception of a corrupt government, which largely extends to the population, so that is why you see movements that are anti-regulation in regards to Gun policy. They also don't buy into regulation of guns meaning a decrease in crime because they would argue that the mass shooters would either still illegally acquire a weapon to commit the heinous crime, and that regulating it for things like keeping records, is a step towards taking guns - which has occurred before in history a few times.

Next, mass shootings, while certainly a topic the public briefly cares about - is not a topic they focus on. What dominates the news? Terrorism coverage. There are more Right Wing Conserative politicians who would enact legislature to regulate Islam than guns lol. Islamophobia is the main concern here, followed by a "corrupt" government because the mass public seems to misunderstand; it isn't the government or regulation, but the corporations that run the show through ALEC - most right wing conservatives would have you decentralize the government, yet it is the state legislature that, literally in thousands to hundreds ratio, passes legislation in this country. Most state congressman and senators running unopposed, and winning by default no matter how bat-shit crazy and uneducated they may be.



http://www.pewglobal.org/2015/07/14/climate-change-seen-as-top-global-threat/?beta=true&utm_expid=53098246-2.Lly4CFSVQG2lphsg-KopIg.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIMgfBZrrZ8


Very well written post. It was a good read (though I had to run through it 3 times to get the most of it!).

One small issue is that I DONT think most Americans welcome foreign insight. Something I learned having liven in the USA, Germany and Japan is one thing. We know the least of the world around us.

So, one brief question to you... Do you have any idea what can be done to help curb the "I don't agree with my neighbors, so I will shoot them" mentality? As I said in my post, a lot of countries in northern Europe have high gun ownership, but less shootings. I think this is due to strict gun laws. Do you have a different opinion, or do you share my sentiment?

P.S. I love Izayoi! I have bought all the Mondaji Tachi Light Novels. He is one of my favorite characters!
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Posted 12/2/15

GrandMasterTime wrote:


animegirl2222 wrote:

I guess America is just the place where the most crazy loonies live.


They've got a huge population so I think it's sort of semi justified. United kingdom has a very large population though and we don't hear of many school shootings at least in the global media.


The issue with this is the shootings per capita (ratio, so all locations can be represented equally), it one of the highest in the world still.
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like i said in another forum post, it's all in our culture. it's genetic. there's nothing you can do about it.
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Posted 12/2/15 , edited 12/2/15
Countries with stricter gun laws generally have fewer incidents like this. That's probably not coincidental.
Posted 12/2/15
Still not enough.
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Posted 12/2/15 , edited 12/2/15

geauxtigers1989 wrote:

Countries with stricter gun laws generally have fewer incidents like this. That's probably not coincidental.


I think the big issue with this in America is that:

Stricter Laws = They want muh guns!

It isn't the case at all, but I hear it a lot in Texas.
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Posted 12/2/15 , edited 12/2/15

Dark_Alma wrote:

http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2015 (link is iffy due to high traffic, refresh page if needed)

In the USA, there has been 352 mass shootings this year. Since opinions vary vastly on what can be done to "solve" this, I would like to hear what can be done to fix it.


IIRC, one was spurred on by religion-bashing Athie ranting, while the other fell sucker for all that "Baby parts" Planned Parenthood footage that the Republicans doctored to try and kill the funding bill in Congress.

IIARC, the campus shooter went on social media the night before claiming he was going to do it, and all the heavy-metal posters (this would be 4chan, I think?) thought he was being "edgy" with all his talk about blasting Christians to smithereens, and tried to out-edge him with "Yeah, do it, man, do it!" And so he did.
Just saying. It starts when we live in our own Internet fantasy worlds, not aware of how heavily some of the more sheltered folk live in theirs...And then it's all edgy-trolling fun and games until somebody gets pumped full of full-metal-jacket assault-rifle bullets.
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Posted 12/2/15

dougeprofile wrote:

Execute more criminals ...more swiftly, build and strengthen gutted commitment laws, don't import 100,000 Muslims (who cannot be vetted) at 67k a pop.


Kill people, control people, and exclude people is your solution lol? & Exactly how many of those 352 mass shootings were related to Muslims? Yeah, so if you can find me 10 examples (which I don't think you can even find 5) then you reach a significant .028% of all the shootings. Congratulations.
Posted 12/2/15 , edited 12/2/15
Guns make mass killings so easy, any idiot could do it.
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Unfortunately crimes like this will continue to happen regardless if gun are around or not. A person that wants to murder someone can use anything they want if they really want to kill another individual. With that being said, I do believe that something needs to be done to help reduce the amount of these violent crimes. I don't think that banning guns would be the right thing to do, but I do think that having background checks in place for gun purchases would be a good start. When I bought my 357 Magnum, all i did was walk into the shop, point at the gun and hand the clerk my money. That was too easy to purchase a gun. I also believe that citizens should be better educated about firearms. My high school offered a gun and hunter safety class for anyone that wanted to take it. I am also a gun owner, in my house i have 6 shotguns, a rifle and a handgun. I have taken safety classes for each of them. Each of those guns are only used for hunting and they are only taken out of the safe the day I am going out into the woods. I heard about today's mass shooting from a friend of mine that lives in Japan. Its embarrassing and incredibly sad that someone from overseas hears about this and asks me "what the hell is wrong with your country?". I do not know how to eliminate incidents like this from happening, but it needs to be looked at and something needs to be done. Too many people have lost their lives this year.
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Posted 12/2/15 , edited 12/2/15

haikinka wrote:

Guns make mass killings so easy, any idiot could do it.


That they do. If someone used a knife, it is still possible, but someone with martial arts training could easily disarm them. Hell, I could win a fight if they only had a knife. I took Tae Kwon Do and Judo for a few years each. I could do pretty well in that scenario. Put in a gun and well. I hope I get close enough for a good kick!



At first I thought that was an epic rave *party hard!* Then I saw it was spray and pray that something hits. Still and epic gif. Do you know what show it is from?
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Posted 12/2/15 , edited 12/2/15
Start working on the root causes of the problem.

Spend on mental health care, spend on social programs that put people to work and keep them fed. Discus gun control at a national level and what value the second amendment still has. Get the police to stop shooting unarmed people, and stop running from the police. Fix the lack of public defenders and the time they have to serve justice. Stop trying to run government based directly on your religious beliefs and instead use the lessons they teach of making you a better person to make common sense solutions that apply to everyone not just who you rely on to get re-elected.

I think people need to look to our poor and our prisoners and realize we are not helping any of them as we should. There is always going to be bad people but we don't need to create situations where normal people have to be bad by circumstance,

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