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Gun Control Vs Gun Rights. (Which Is Reasonable?)
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o look the ones that the citizens are better armed, have how many compared to the rest?
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I think there should be a balance. Gun Rights or not, criminals can and do get them, and it's pretty much game over if you're in a situation where you're unarmed against them. Yet, it's problematic if there are absolutely no limitations.
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C0mlink wrote:

o look the ones that the citizens are better armed, have how many compared to the rest?


Or population density...



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In 2013, America had ~16.000 homicides. ~11,500 were firearm related deaths (this means shot).
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm <-- Center for Disease control official

The majority of gun reltaed deaths in america are either suicides or related to gang violence. Neither or those issues would be solved by removing guns people wil still kill themselves and people will still be in gangs.

America's gun related homicides in the past decade are more than every single first world country combined (excluding China, Russia).
All of the other first world countries have stricter gun control than the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

I cant argue this, but Id just like to point to the fact that the UK reported 537 homicides last year and has been seeing a surge in violent crime. While this doesn't detract from the fact america by percentage has more homicides the notion that stricter gun laws would "cure" all our problems fallacious.

Let me address some common arguments that oppose gun control things.

"Guns don't kill people, people kill people." -
From the statistic above, let me say that guns make it way too easy to kill people, so should be moderately regulated.

You know what else makes it easy to kill people? fertilizer also cars should we ban those? gun control is like putting a band aid on a cancer patient. Its not going to fix the root causes of the problem.


"We need guns to protect ourselves." -
Most people die from guns. When attacked, it is rarely the case that a firearm can be withdrawn quickly enough to effectively protect the user. In shooting incidents, gun carriers are often shot before they can ever draw their weapon.

In what cases are we talking about? show me a study that shows this. As I stated before the majority of gun related deaths are from suicide so you make the call on that one.

"If you take away guns, only the bad guys will have them." -
Take for instance England, or Australia. Their regulations are very strict, and very few (compared to the U.S.) own firearms. Gun deaths in these countries amounted to less than 100 combined in 2013. It is true that bad people will find ways, but if it is more difficult, it will not be that many of them,

those countries are all islands a lot harder to get weapons too than say the US. Also even if the UK didnt have many gun related homicides they still had near 530 total homicides.

"Shootings happen in gun free zones." -
A zone is declared 'gun free', and when a firearm enters that zone, it isn't. That aside, there were concealed carry individuals at many of the 'gun free' zones in which mass shootings took place in. For example, a shooting in an Oregon University had at least 3 concealed carry members, all of whom did nothing to stop the shooter, saying 'I'll protect myself, but I can't run into the line of fire', and 'the police could mistake me for the shooter'.

I dont have a argument. If some said that to promote gun ownership they shouldnt be allowed to have a gun lol.

"It's our right." -
I'm all for rights... until they hurt people, or kill them. Then I think it's time to consider moderation. I think it's my right to a physically safe country, in which I do not have to fear being shot because you can buy an automatic weapon with extended magazines or a concealed carry weapon. I shouldn't have to be at the whim of those who can afford guns, and aren't afraid to use them. So, people's right to life (not potentially to be killed), or people's right to guns?

I don't know what state your talking about, but where I live you need to go through a lot of red tape to buy a automatic weapon. Even if you could if you look at the stats most gun related crime is committed with pistols so banning rifles isn't going to do anything. You know Jared loughner had extended mags and that's why he got taken down so easy? Extended magazines aren't that scary and once again the majority of gun related violence doesn't involve them. Im for personal responsibility yes there are always going o be people who abuse and harm others, thats a fact, but banning guns isnt going to stop people from doing that. Do we need better background searches and training? Yes Is it going to solve all our problems? No not at all.
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aeb0717 wrote:

I think there should be a balance. Gun Rights or not, criminals can and do get them, and it's pretty much game over if you're in a situation where you're unarmed against them. Yet, it's problematic if there are absolutely no limitations.


Criminals are getting unregistered guns through illegal means so stricter gun laws won't mean shit to them.
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but seriously density doesn't make up for the fact that their are no shootings in Wyoming. none. murders yeah. no school shootings. and everyone is frigging armed. and they respect their weapons enough no to abuse them
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but seriously density doesn't make up for the fact that their are no shootings in Wyoming. none. murders yeah. no school shootings. and everyone is frigging armed. and they respect their weapons enough no to abuse them


I don't know. Us Virginians like our guns too.
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it's the climate, ask the global warming people. it makes kids act like this.
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it's the climate, ask the global warming people. it makes kids act like this.


I do not understand a single thing you've said.
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Here is a shovel built from AK... wait, I mean an AK built from a shovel.



Glock build from stampings.



using lego as part of a molding system for AR lowers, which you cast yourself.



It's easier to make full auto subguns than semi auto.

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:I don't know. Us Virginians like our guns too.


And you can't even SEE Georgia or Florida, but I'm guessing the gun ownership there is fairly sparse...
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:I don't know. Us Virginians like our guns too.


And you can't even SEE Georgia or Florida, but I'm guessing the gun ownership there is fairly sparse...


Dude, it's Atlanta.
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VZ68 wrote:


Ejanss wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:I don't know. Us Virginians like our guns too.


And you can't even SEE Georgia or Florida, but I'm guessing the gun ownership there is fairly sparse...


Dude, it's Atlanta.


i'm sure they own them, hence the shootings. but just no legally.
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C0mlink wrote:


VZ68 wrote:


Ejanss wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:I don't know. Us Virginians like our guns too.


And you can't even SEE Georgia or Florida, but I'm guessing the gun ownership there is fairly sparse...


Dude, it's Atlanta.


i'm sure they own them, hence the shootings. but just no legally.


Yeah, Atlanta is just bad. Then again, there seems to be an awful lot of shootings in Chicago, California, New York City, Washington DC, Boston, Denver etc etc, all took place in areas that are really into gun control.
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