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Posted 12/5/15

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Atheists believe that there is no god. Apatheists don't care if there is a god.


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I feel like I am the apathetist in this.


*passes tree trunk blunt* I don't care either.
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Posted 12/5/15

Kanudelgruber wrote:

Atheists believe that there is no god. Apatheists don't care if there is a god.


Sounds like me. I can care less about that stuff.
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Posted 12/5/15 , edited 12/5/15

brigand554 wrote:


qualeshia3 wrote:



I feel like I am the apathetist in this.


*passes tree trunk blunt* I don't care either.


But aren't most weed smokers atheist (a product of their "deep thoughts", rebellious apathy and cheap jokes), or is it just Kevin Smith?
Posted 12/5/15 , edited 12/5/15

Ejanss wrote:


brigand554 wrote:


qualeshia3 wrote:



I feel like I am the apathetist in this.


*passes tree trunk blunt* I don't care either.


But aren't most weed smokers atheist, or just Kevin Smith?


No
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Posted 12/5/15

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TheJushel wrote:

Apatheism, from the definition I've seen, seems to be a form of Agnosticism, which is different from Atheism. The distinction between the two is that Atheism rejects any possibility of any version of a god existing, whereas Agnosticism doesn't accept, but doesn't necessarily reject, the existence of a god.

Another way to put it is that Atheism says that there is no god, and Agnosticism says that we can't say for sure whether or not there is. Apatheism, specifically, seems to be about not really caring one way or another.


Not sure how relevant this is to your point, but atheism and agnosticism aren't mutually exclusive. Id est "agnostic atheism" is perfectly intelligible. Agnostic atheism is usually so canon among atheists that the inclusion of agnostic is often seen as pedantic and unnecessary.

Apatheism is a form of agnosticism, granted; however, apatheists can also be atheists too.


I have trouble understanding the idea of agnostic atheism. To me, the principle of it sounds kind of like "you can't know for sure if there is a god or not, but there's not", which doesn't make sense to me. I could understand if it's more like "you can't know for sure, but it's highly unlikely that god exists", but that doesn't really seem to me like it qualifies as atheism; more like agnosticism that leans toward atheism.
To me the principles "god doesn't exist" and "god is possible, but unknown/unknowable" seem mutually exclusive.

If I have the wrong idea about it, would you mind explaining it to me?
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Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity while "Apatheism" is indifference to deities and the issues that concern their existence, I don't think they are mutually exclusive in fact I'd contend all Apatheists are Atheists.
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Posted 12/5/15 , edited 12/5/15

TheJushel wrote:


Zoraprime wrote:


TheJushel wrote:

Apatheism, from the definition I've seen, seems to be a form of Agnosticism, which is different from Atheism. The distinction between the two is that Atheism rejects any possibility of any version of a god existing, whereas Agnosticism doesn't accept, but doesn't necessarily reject, the existence of a god.

Another way to put it is that Atheism says that there is no god, and Agnosticism says that we can't say for sure whether or not there is. Apatheism, specifically, seems to be about not really caring one way or another.


Not sure how relevant this is to your point, but atheism and agnosticism aren't mutually exclusive. Id est "agnostic atheism" is perfectly intelligible. Agnostic atheism is usually so canon among atheists that the inclusion of agnostic is often seen as pedantic and unnecessary.

Apatheism is a form of agnosticism, granted; however, apatheists can also be atheists too.


I have trouble understanding the idea of agnostic atheism. To me, the principle of it sounds kind of like "you can't know for sure if there is a god or not, but there's not", which doesn't make sense to me. I could understand if it's more like "you can't know for sure, but it's highly unlikely that god exists", but that doesn't really seem to me like it qualifies as atheism; more like agnosticism that leans toward atheism.
To me the principles "god doesn't exist" and "god is possible, but unknown/unknowable" seem mutually exclusive.

If I have the wrong idea about it, would you mind explaining it to me?


Agnosticism is a lack of knowledge. Atheism is the lack of belief or rejection in a deity. Agnostic Atheism would be "I believe god doesn't exist" or "I don't have a belief in a god but I don't know that a god doesn't exist" while gnostic Atheism would be "I know there is no god".
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GrandMasterTime wrote:

Agnosticism is a lack of knowledge. Atheism is the lack of belief or rejection in a deity. Agnostic Atheism would be "I believe god doesn't exist" or "I don't have a belief in a god but I don't know that a god doesn't exist" while gnostic Atheism would be "I know there is no god".


Ok, thank you for explaining that. I guess I got confused because I usually hear "atheism" being defined more like gnostic atheism, where there is total rejection of the possibility of a god, rather than the broader meaning.
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Atheist are so thin-skinned, that if you say anything bad bout atheism they take it personally, and automatically assume that you're theist.
And when I mean they I mean the collective hive mind atheist.
So they probably needed a sub division, one that is thicker skinned, maybe one that didn't actually give a shit.

that's only what I think though.
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