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As someone who didn't grow up with oldschool anime, I feel like I don't really have much of a bias either way, aside from the fact that I've watched much more new anime and most of the old anime I have watched is highly acclaimed or lots of people really love it or it's a "classic" or etc. With that in mind, I can definitely say new anime is leaps and bounds better than old anime.
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40YearOldVirgin wrote:

I never understood this comparison between childhood favorite anime vs adulthood. You're not the same person as you were back then... you probably had more tolerance for cliches and things like that. Whereas in adulthood, you have less tolerance for cliches, so you're always going to think the current anime is worse than the childhood ones.

When in reality, both are the same, it's your perspective that's changing, not the quality of anime. I rest my case.


^ Quoted for truth. I wish more anime fans realized this.
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I prefer the anime I grew up with. I find it hard to like anything these days. Everything's either a love story, a harem, or a mecha. And most based off of light novels. Even the Shonen anime these days aren't that good.
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Posted 12/8/15 , edited 12/8/15

lilliputianliar wrote:

^ Quoted for truth. I wish more anime fans realized this.


I too agree with this very much.
While I never grew out of liking animation and probably never will, there many titles which I enjoyed in the past that I wouldn't watch anymore today.
That said there are also many titles which I still enjoy today, but for different reasons now than when I was younger.

Is today's anime worse than the anime in the past? Nope, there was enough garbage back then as well as brilliant titles today.
I have just developed a taste.
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Posted 12/8/15

AnimeATLA wrote:

As someone who didn't grow up with oldschool anime, I feel like I don't really have much of a bias either way, aside from the fact that I've watched much more new anime and most of the old anime I have watched is highly acclaimed or lots of people really love it or it's a "classic" or etc. With that in mind, I can definitely say new anime is leaps and bounds better than old anime.


very true, 3 years ago i woulda been happy watching some fillaruto, now, aside from mood swings i can't stand it. but you have to admit anime standards have change, its sorta like how youtube changed in the past few years, from viral video spread like crazy due to people actually having interest in it to now its a clickbait hell on the more mainstream stuff atleast. the culture has changed, and i still think the current anime is still in a transition period. i personally like alot of the traditional values of anime since i grew up on it and its more or less my culture. although because of that im sort of transitioning back the chinese style plot devices vs japanese, i grew up watching wuxia film and anime caught that part for me, but not as many series that has the home feel for me nowadays. but the pure action and adventure stuff is still as good as usual i guess.
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40YearOldVirgin wrote:

I never understood this comparison between childhood favorite anime vs adulthood. You're not the same person as you were back then... you probably had more tolerance for cliches and things like that. Whereas in adulthood, you have less tolerance for cliches, so you're always going to think the current anime is worse than the childhood ones.

When in reality, both are the same, it's your perspective that's changing, not the quality of anime. I rest my case.

Honestly, I think that the truth is more complicated then attributing any hatred towards anime today as merely a matter of nostalgia. I believe that a show made for children, when done well, can easily hold its own compared to any anime made specifically for an adult audience. This is why franchises like Digimon (the reason I'm here on Crunchyroll today) have endured for years and indeed decades beyond when the franchise was first created, evolving with the changes tastes of its audience as they grow older while still maintaining the core appeal which makes the anime still so appealing.

In turn this means that newer anime shouldn't get a free pass, just because they are more recent. Granted, the overall quality of animation has generally improved. As has the distribution of anime worldwide, thanks to advances in digital communication technology; even if licencing issues across national borders still poses significant problems. Nevertheless, the question remains as to whether those creating anime in this modern era are making the best use of such valuable resources. After all, no anime can exist in isolation. The new IPs that publishers choose to promote has a decisive affect on how anime as a whole is perceived.

To that end, I think that right now anime is suffering from a severally negative image problem. Don’t get wrong, anime (just like comic books and video games) has had to deal with accusations of depravity. This was a problem in the past but in many ways the anime industry weathered the storm, with global phenomenon like Digimon pushing anime into the mainstream like never before. Yet somewhere along the way, in the last five years or so, something has gone wrong with anime. Today there is an increased prevalence of shows about stunted mutant children doing perverted things, I’m sure you all know exactly what I’m talking about.

In many ways it’s unfair that all anime should be condemned thanks to the indiscretions of a few producers and the publishers which back then. Nevertheless, it’s a problem when the entire concept of anime becomes associated with such low quality works, when the cyberpunk beauty of Ghost in the Shell or the whimsy of a Studio Ghibli film is overshadowed by poorly drawn creatures that can’t even pass as human. Still, I think that anime is starting to once again more forward, when many promising new IPs are being created alongside the latest instalments of some of anime’s most iconic franchises.

The future can be better than past, we may not be at that point yet but that’s no reason to give up. In time the damage done to anime’s global reputation can be repaired and with it the excesses of recent years can be swiftly forgotten.
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I grew up with anime from the 80's and 90's. There were many good titles but also really bad ones. Nothing changed over the time. There are still good and bad anime and for some reason I like the new productions better but not because of better animation, The new stories are just more my cup of tea. Maybe it's because of better access. Back then you had to deal with anime on TV and so on.
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We have gone from fist of the north star to that show were loli idol girls teach you push ups.

I don't think I even need to say anything to describe this transition.


You mean like we had Plastic Little?

Ecchi is part and parcel of anime. Always has been.
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AnimeATLA wrote:
As someone who didn't grow up with oldschool anime, I feel like I don't really have much of a bias either way, aside from the fact that I've watched much more new anime and most of the old anime I have watched is highly acclaimed or lots of people really love it or it's a "classic" or etc. With that in mind, I can definitely say new anime is leaps and bounds better than old anime.

very true, 3 years ago i woulda been happy watching some fillaruto, now, aside from mood swings i can't stand it. but you have to admit anime standards have change, its sorta like how youtube changed in the past few years, from viral video spread like crazy due to people actually having interest in it to now its a clickbait hell on the more mainstream stuff atleast. the culture has changed, and i still think the current anime is still in a transition period. i personally like alot of the traditional values of anime since i grew up on it and its more or less my culture. although because of that im sort of transitioning back the chinese style plot devices vs japanese, i grew up watching wuxia film and anime caught that part for me, but not as many series that has the home feel for me nowadays. but the pure action and adventure stuff is still as good as usual i guess.

it's also that change in culture over the past however many years that causes people to either love or hate older or newer anime. styles have always been dictated by popularity. whatever sells will have more of the same made. during the 80's, mecha, sci-fi, and fantasy was what ruled anime. during the 90's, it was steampunk and cyberpunk. 2000's saw the rise of Moe, and nowadays, light novel battle harems seem to have taken the popularity spot.

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I grew up with anime from the 80's and 90's. There were many good titles but also really bad ones. Nothing changed over the time. There are still good and bad anime and for some reason I like the new productions better but not because of better animation, The new stories are just more my cup of tea. Maybe it's because of better access. Back then you had to deal with anime on TV and so on.

better access is definitely a factor in why some people think anime is on a decline. back before the rise of the internet sharing of anime, the only ways to watch were either to buy the few anime that companies decided to bring over, or to watch whatever was shown on TV.. both were a very low percentage of the amount of anime that actually aired every year. nowadays with how easy it is to share and view anime, if you really wanted to, you could watch every single show that airs in a season, the good and the bad.

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lukedollo wrote:
We have gone from fist of the north star to that show were loli idol girls teach you push ups.

I don't think I even need to say anything to describe this transition.

You mean like we had Plastic Little?

Ecchi is part and parcel of anime. Always has been.

I'm reminded of when a group of us watched Dragon-Half together... came out in 1993, but it embodied a lot of what people hate about today's anime. pointless non-story, bland/bad characters, needless fanservice...
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aidenraine wrote:
better access is definitely a factor in why some people think anime is on a decline. back before the rise of the internet sharing of anime, the only ways to watch were either to buy the few anime that companies decided to bring over, or to watch whatever was shown on TV.. both were a very low percentage of the amount of anime that actually aired every year. nowadays with how easy it is to share and view anime, if you really wanted to, you could watch every single show that airs in a season, the good and the bad.

It's not simply a question of better access, bringing low quality shows to the forefront; the anime that publishers currently choose to promote inevitably defines anime's reputation around the world. It's quite disappointing to see that some publishers are willing promote so many feckless and outright abhorrent shows, involving characters depicted as children no less. Not that these ‘children’ are anywhere near reflective of how children actually behave. As I said earlier, they don't even look like children, more like someone’s disturbed idea of what children might be if they have never even seen a child before. This is no way to make compelling viewing for young audiences, when any child can readily see such depictions of themselves as hollow and false. To say nothing of making such trash for adults, this is a far cry from the days when anime claimed artistic integrity.
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Posted 12/8/15 , edited 12/8/15
I like how series are released shortly after they're shown, now, instead of being released 5-10-15-20 years after it happened.

I like how series were given more time to seemingly flesh out story and characters from older series.

I love my older anime more, though. May be through rose-colored glasses, but you have rose-colored glasses for everything you love, it doesn't matter if it's nostalgic or not, so I'm not sure if that's a fair critique.
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Posted 12/8/15
Newer anime probably has better quality, but DBZ will always be my favorite.
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